What happened on the moon [major update]

[Vulcas]

*MAJOR EDIT | Last edited on February 23rd*

This post was edited primarily to show a much better, more detailed, and "religion" free video, nearly four hours long, which is an actual documentary and a fully researched investigation by scientists with PhD and numerous fields of expertise, and not a "conspiracy theory". It concentrates on pure evidence and intricate details. The video's motto is "The proof is in the details".

What happened on the moon: Part 1

What happened on the moon: Part 2

The edit was done, so that people do not get fixated on trivial things like a few references to God in a previous video's intro (just for the sake of showing irony, really, and not religious) made by a different author. Trivial things like that seemed to have led to pointless bickering as an attempt to dodge the actual hard evidence presented in this video (by a different author), which has yet to be refuted by any sites, videos or personal analysis.

Enjoy!

[LARAGORN]

Interesting

[Idoru]

Well, I wonder how they plan to get people to mars if the cant get them to the moon?

* Idoru goes to rent Capricorn One before the US Government do the remake

[steuben]

well, it is an 'interesting' point of view...
though i guess everybody is entitled to their opinion, regardless of how wrong it may be. and how flimsy the evidence maybe.

[LARAGORN]

One thing they didnt touch on in this presintation was the Australian situation. I will try to find the info, but basicaly what happend was as the shuttle was sending its feed to NASA, there was an area in australia that was recieving the feed at the same time. They were recieving the raw unedited feed, with all the 'directors' instructions to the astronauts. Now because of the time and technology limitations, there were no recording of the feed they recieved, but there were a few dozen sworn testimonies of the event.

IMHO the biggest area that brings doubt to my mind is the Van allen belt. I have yet to see any realistic explanation of how they overcame this obsticle. I see no way that the flimsy material could have withstood the high levels of radiation they would have been subjected to.

[steuben]

actually australia was the receiving point for the incoming lunar feed. which was then downgraded for transmission to the states. the video that everybody uses has gone through i think atleast 2 or 3 analog copying steps before it was converted to digital.

as for the van allen belts. radiation exposure risks are a function of intensity*time. so you can run through a high inetsnity area quickly, and resive the same dose as going through a loser intesity aera slower.

[Idoru]

Link 1

Theres another link to another one of these conspiracy things, this one raises a couple of points the last one didnt.

Link 2

Theres one with more info about the view of the earth from the window as seen in the 1st video.

Link 3

And thats one about the radiation belts.

[Under the moon]

* Under the moon just laughs at the gullibility of some people.

So, the thing was faked, and all the 'Reds' out there at the time just let us get away with being the first to the moon. You think NASA is the only one out there that had space object tracking abilities? You think amatures with their own equipment did not triangulate the signals coming from the feed? Come on folks, wake up and smell the lunar dust.

And yes, a flimsy piece of material can stop radiation, or your face would be boiled every time you stare into the microwave waiting for your cheezy mac to get done. The radiation from the sun is easily reflected.

For every trace of false info that states we did not do such a thing, there is countless amounts of proof that we, in fact, did. Why have we not gone back, then? Simply put, going to the moon is a political ploy, nothing more. They used it back then to prove we were better than the 'Reds', and Bush is pushing for if now (and on to Mars) for the exact same reasons. Going to the moon has no real point, as it is, besides getting there.

"What reason is there to climb a mountain?" response: "Because it is there."

[bilbous]

Aww c'mon the dinosaur people want to keep their pet monkeys confined to earth what else is new?

[Vulcas]

Thanks to the people who kept it constructive instead of resorting to unintelligent remarks. As someone on YouTube  has already stated in response to such remarks:

Yea.... these professional photographers and image analysts don't know anything.

Also, I'm very excited about the space exploration. I'm not, however, excited about a "Giant Lie for Mankind".

Idoru, thanks for those links - great explanation that goes into further detail.

Here is a video with evidence that clearly shows wires being used on the astronauts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

*edit*

This is the whole video of the famous What happened on the moon in two parts (this time on Google Video):

Part 1

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7251089776146839385&q=what+happened+on+the+moon

Part 2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8585273531105072202&q=what+happened+on+the+moon

Very educational!

[steuben]

but here's the base problem. the mistakes them selves. you have basically all this time and money, especially to do quality control. if it was faked why are there so many mistakes. especially in the later missions.

the exsistance of 'mistakes' is the greatest evidence against the faking of the landings.

[Vulcas]

Mistakes are what allows forensics to catch criminals that try to cover their tracks. Watch the two-part video, it's actually better than the first one I posted, and will explain why the mistakes were made.

Sorry to disappoint you but we never went to the moon, as good as that idea sounds, unless you consider Russians sending an unmanned craft there.

[zanzibar]

There's nothing controversial about whether or not we landed on the moon.  Videos like "a funny thing happened..." are the work of religious fundamentalists with an anti-science agenda.  That film misrepresents the facts, it rewrites history, and every single one of its arguments falls apart under scrutiny.  It's nothing more than garbage designed to manipulate and prey upon the weak minded and the ill-informed.

[Under the moon]

And since when is YOUtube the gosple on anything? I am sure I could find many vids proving for a fact that we all come from Mars.

* Under the moon watches the supposed 'proof' of a fake by means of using wires, and tips over laughing.

Some people will believe -anything-. I would go into all of the reasons why that 'expert' is full of it, but why bother when there are ton of videos, sites, and documents that do it for me? And they happen to be by -actual- experts, not glory hounds looking for thier fifteen minutes of fame. Start looking at some of those before you really start looking foolish.

Edit* *completely agrees with zanzibar*

[Narure]

Hmm i would be one of those ill-informed. Can i see a link to somthing showing the arguments under scrutiny? Or at leasrt somthing un-biased about the ideas around the moon landing.