Remove duels from the game. (This is not a joke.)

[zanzibar]

And no - it hasn't just been a few petty run-ins with new players.

care to elaborate?

I already have in earlier posts.

[drah]

what personal insults??

Almost everything I've said against you has been a direct result of something you've said... and in most cases I've referred back to those to make a point.

I've not insulted you, I've challenged the opinions you have exerted, I've highlighted your own opinion on your intelligence and how you seem to have a superior complex exemplified in those very actions.

Again, I will not be 'painted' as the bad guy when all I've done is use your own words against you.

[zanzibar]

what personal insults??

Almost everything I've said against you has been a direct result of something you've said... and in most cases I've referred back to those to make a point.

I've not insulted you, I've challenged the opinions you have exerted, I've highlighted your own opinion on your intelligence and how you seem to have a superior complex exemplified in those very actions.

Again, I will not be 'painted' as the bad guy when all I've done is use your own words against you.

 

[drah]

You made the statements that I challenge you on.

Don't think a smiley will save you!!!!

YOU ACCUSED ME OF INSULTING YOU PERSONALLY.. I respond and you post THAT!!!.. don't try ducking this... WHERE did i personally insult you... at least without making a point of something you've said (which is perfectly legitimate in an intelligible argument)

C'mon Zanzi.. your "superior intelligence" can surely do better than that!!

I will NOT stand back and have you misrepresent me because of your childish superiority-complex and your refusal to stand up for things you, yourself have stated.

[lordraleigh]

Remove duels because of the PKers

Remove mobs because of the KSers

Remove quests too because some people sell multiple times quest items.

Also remove trade of items and tria between players, this way mule and miner alts won't be exploitable.

Remove the chat window, some people use it for godmodding.

Remove... *large list with all that can be exploited in PS*

After all: Remove Planeshift, as any community will have thorns, thus if you truly wish to get fully rid of them, that's the best choice.

[zanzibar]

You made the statements that I challenge you on.

Don't think a smiley will save you!!!!

YOU ACCUSED ME OF INSULTING YOU PERSONALLY.. I respond and you post THAT!!!.. don't try ducking this... WHERE did i personally insult you... at least without making a point of something you've said (which is perfectly legitimate in an intelligible argument)

C'mon Zanzi.. your "superior intelligence" can surely do better than that!!

I will NOT stand back and have you misrepresent me because of your childish superiority-complex and your refusal to stand up for things you, yourself have stated.

 

Remove duels because of the PKers

Remove mobs because of the KSers

Remove quests too because some people sell multiple times quest items.

Also remove trade of items and tria between players, this way mule and miner alts won't be exploitable.

Remove the chat window, some people use it for godmodding.

Remove... *large list with all that can be exploited in PS*

After all: Remove Planeshift, as any community will have thorns, thus if you truly wish to get fully rid of them, that's the best choice.

Tis the best and only solution.

[LoneDragon]

*sigh* I hated PVP because it was alot of the times unbalanced but this is a really pushy topic IMO.
Look, almost EVERY! MMORPG has some sort of PVP, It provides players with a challenge from another real life player and not an NPC mob. The spam PVP idiots are really a result of the game being massively multiplayer online, it happens. Removing PVP entirely really would lessen the challenge of the game. The thing is to improve the moderation of features like this, if you remove everything because people abuse it well then the game itself would be removed.

You made the statements that I challenge you on.

Don't think a smiley will save you!!!!

YOU ACCUSED ME OF INSULTING YOU PERSONALLY.. I respond and you post THAT!!!.. don't try ducking this... WHERE did i personally insult you... at least without making a point of something you've said (which is perfectly legitimate in an intelligible argument)

C'mon Zanzi.. your "superior intelligence" can surely do better than that!!

I will NOT stand back and have you misrepresent me because of your childish superiority-complex and your refusal to stand up for things you, yourself have stated.

 

Remove duels because of the PKers

Remove mobs because of the KSers

Remove quests too because some people sell multiple times quest items.

Also remove trade of items and tria between players, this way mule and miner alts won't be exploitable.

Remove the chat window, some people use it for godmodding.

Remove... *large list with all that can be exploited in PS*

After all: Remove Planeshift, as any community will have thorns, thus if you truly wish to get fully rid of them, that's the best choice.

Tis the best and only solution.

Games will always have some sort of annoyance or problems, removing the game will not solve anything.
Yes, removing PVP is an easy way out, but life is not easy i am afraid. The ask/accept PVP option is really a form of moderation in itself that many other MMOs do not have. It basically provides you with the option of avoiding massive random and unexpected attacks on your character. If PVP were balanced and respectfully conducted theres no complaints from me.  I personally like arenas for that sort of thing

[lordraleigh]

There's even a better solution that doesn't require approval of the development team if you take things such way.

Click on the Planeshift "Uninstaller" desktop shortcut and click on yes on all the following questions.

Delete the client installation file.

Don't download it again.

[zanzibar]

@LoneDragon: Do we really want Planeshift to be like Runescape though?

@lordraleigh:  Try to be constructive.

[LoneDragon]

@ Zanzibar: This is far from runescape  they didnt even have an ask/accept system. If you dont want PVP the simple thing is going for the deny all. Like I said before, an arena would be nice .

[lordraleigh]

@lordraleigh:  Try to be constructive.

Why? There could be 1000 people using constructive and well-founded arguments against your claim and you would still hold your ground regardless of it.

[zanzibar]

Why? There could be 1000 people using constructive and well-founded arguments against your claim and you would still hold your ground regardless of it.

Then you're in luck, since it's Talad who will decide which arguments are well-founded.

[lordraleigh]

Talad would not authorize a duel system if it was not part of Planeshift plans of development.

And scrapping down the work to develop the current duelling system would be really disappointing for the devs who developed it.

[Karyuu]

I'm not going to bother "weeding" through this thread to clean out brainpoops that don't belong here. I'm just going to give a warning. If the next time I check back here people are still acting like this:



I'm going to be ending the discussion.

[Cherppow]

Hi again,

Remember, we are developing a game here, not a playerbase.

You're developing a dev team.  You're developing a GM team.  You're developing a player's guide.  You're developing an online community.  You're developing RP events.  You're developing a RP culture.  And you're developing a playerbase.  It's all connected.

Anything that changes that the devs can also influence runs under ther umbrella of developement.  Or at least, that's how I see things.

Hmm, let me be more clear here. We should not lock off features, just because they're currently not that fine-tuned. Especially not to drive off certain type of players. Our goal is not to attract perfect players, and shove everyone else off, so that the elite can feel good. Instead, we should focus on developing the game, so that there's more activities for everyone to do. This way the experienced players don't get so bored and grumpy, and those not familiar with roleplay can get interested in it, instead of ending up doing hack&slash. Just my opinion.

Ps. One more thing; please have some decency and stop calling people idiots.

It's difficult to resist when you're so far above everyone intellectually.

I wasn't asking whether it was difficult, I was simply saying: "Please do it". And that goes out to everyone.