Remove duels from the game. (This is not a joke.)

[emeraldfool]

Fixing it would be alot more productive.

Why shouldn't we remove it until it is fixed?  The devs remove things all the time if they prove to be buggy.

Care to give an example there, Zanzi?

In my experience they seem to just pile on the content and deal with the bugs as they come. And rightly so, I think: Planeshift has few features and little to do as it is, without removing functional content (even if it is flawed...).


And this isn't a matter of 'understanding' anything, it's a matter of ideals. The argument is between people who think it's wrong to remove dueling because it gets abused sometimes, and the people who think it's necessary to avoid the abuse.

Until (meaning 'if') it gets removed, we wont really know what will happen to the dueling 'sub-culture', but regardless of that I think it would be a step-down. Ill-functioning features are better than no features at all...

[zanzibar]

Care to give an example there, Zanzi?

NPCs, various quests. various spells, aspects of crafting, etc and so on and so forth.



Emerald, these people don't stick to a particular sub culture - they affect other people playing the game.  So I don't know what you're trying to suggest.

[Volund]

It's a game and the devs can violate realism as much as they want.

Not everyone who duels fits the profile I and others have described.  However, there are far too many players who do fit this profile.

Yep. devs are the modern day planeshift "the man".

When that profile...its ussualy spoiled noobs.

[LoneDragon]

It's a game and the devs can violate realism as much as they want.

Not everyone who duels fits the profile I and others have described.  However, there are far too many players who do fit this profile.

Yep. devs are the modern day planeshift "the man".

When that profile...its ussualy spoiled noobs.

The devs are people also, with real ideas that they can make.
I personally think that the duel system should still be in place because its sometimes fun to duel against a player and not a computer generated mob. The duel system in the game can be alot better than you all might give credit to. Why, in most MMORPGs they dont have a feature that allows you to duel, instead a HIGH level SNOB can come at you when your level 10 and 1 hit kill you. If the system were fixed to stop the duel spamming then I really dont see a problem with the feature itself.
I also like the idea of guards, or some type of law or rule enforcement system.

[Thasa]

Challenges should definitely not be a pop up window in the middle of the screen to stop the spam. Instead they should be a part of a GUI window somewhere where you can position it in corners or sides of the screen. It could, for example, highlight a challenger's name on a list. You can then press buttons that are part of that GUI window "Accept", "Deny" or "Deny All". If you simply ignore the challenges, they go away after a time period. If you highlight a name and click "Accept", you accept that challenge. If too many people challenge you at once and you aren't interested in a PvP with anyone at the moment, you can "Deny All" or simply ignore them.

Just a rough idea.

[Volund]

Basically good ideas up to point

-guards, npcs or a GM controlled enforcement system.
-SPAMMING stopped.
-If you dont like dueling currently, put in the auto-decline duels.
-Devs/Gm's are people. *looks terrifed at karyuus whip*

I dunno what else to add, Im a bit lazy.

[Nikodemus]

No duels? Hey, maybe lets erase whole combat alltogether? \o/\o/\/o/\o/ That will stop these bestards! his is going to be so ummm... What is the word for being bored while having fun?

[Volund]

No duels? Hey, maybe lets erase whole combat alltogether? \o/\o/\/o/\o/ That will stop these bestards! his is going to be so ummm... What is the word for being bored while having fun?

I dont know, maybe you hate the game but are addicted.

[lordraleigh]

No duels? Hey, maybe lets erase whole combat alltogether? \o/\o/\/o/\o/ That will stop these bestards! his is going to be so ummm... What is the word for being bored while having fun?

Paradox

Anyway that's the real thing @Nikodemus. It would make this game closer to an "Ocean of boredom".

If now 98 in 100 says "This game sux" and leaves the game (% of people that don't play PS anymore = Roughly 98% according to these statistics )

Once the combat is fully removed 9999 in 10000 will say "This game sux".

Active playerbase will be pretty large then.

A "Hell" of boredom for players

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  This is my "number of beast " post 

[Under the moon]

Hmmm. Not true. There are a great many RP-ish type games that have no combat at all.

[zanzibar]

No duels? Hey, maybe lets erase whole combat alltogether? \o/\o/\/o/\o/ That will stop these bestards! his is going to be so ummm... What is the word for being bored while having fun?

I think it's called molecular blue, but I haven't experienced it myself.

[Nikodemus]

... and 20 people on a server.
10 times less than now, so if currently 98% leave PS, 10% of 2% is 0.2%, so lordraleigh overstated only 20 times.

[Volund]

Once the combat is fully removed 9999 in 10000 will say "This game sux".

Active playerbase will be pretty large then.

But think of the quality! Tons of people wandered into MB and left with "This game sux" within ten minutes of their visit. Those who stayed, however, were absolutely wonderful.

when we hit .4 PS might be recognized as a massive roleplaying game.

[lordraleigh]

Hmmm. Not true. There are a great many RP-ish type games that have no combat at all.

Will we be able to build cities in the future, manage them(Including Education, Health, Finances, etc.) and RP being a mayor? While having to deal sometimes with all kind of natural disasters like floods, fires, and so?

Will we be able to open business in an economically realist environment, where things like propaganda and management will be necessary to make them grow in Yliakum while trying to beat the competitors?

If no combat/conflict exists, unless it become some kind of "Tycoon" or "Sim" game focused on RP, or something like that, I doubt it would be interesting to play PS just for saying "Hello" and chatting to your character friends using the the chat system. There's another thing for that called IRC.

[Volund]

Hmmm. Not true. There are a great many RP-ish type games that have no combat at all.

Will we be able to build cities in the future, manage them(Including Education, Health, Finances, etc.) and RP being a mayor? While having to deal sometimes with all kind of natural disasters like floods, fires, and so?

Will we be able to open business in an economically realist environment, where things like propaganda and management will be necessary to make them grow in Yliakum while trying to beat the competitors?

If no combat/conflict exists, unless it become some kind of "Tycoon" or "Sim" game focused on RP, or something like that, I doubt it would be interesting to play PS just for saying "Hello" and chatting to your character friends using the the chat system. There's another thing for that called IRC.

All of that and pvp combat, its probably peoples problem with player versus combat that it is OOC. If you figure out a good solution go to wish list, but you know pvp hit and run dueling etc. is all part of roleplay, as is crafting, and mining and all the rest.