Question about Lemur 8th armor rank limitation

[Theelk]

The Mongols and ancient Chinese used silk as an "armour" because if the wearer is struck with an arrow, the silk does not tear but wraps around the arrow head. Although it does not prevent the arrow entering the flesh, it reduces tearing of the flesh and allows the arrow to be (relatively) easily removed without causing further injury, because the barbed arrow head cannot dig in. So cloth CAN be used as armour. (There are no ranged weapons yet of course  )

[pedenel]

Aaahh found it - a gambeson

a padded defensive jacket, worn as armour separately
produced with a sewing technique called quilting. Usually constructed of linen or wool, the stuffing varied, and could be for example scrap cloth or horse hair

[emeraldfool]

Oooh. I almost fergot Phinehas was back. Deary me.  oh well. He probably wont read it 

Lol, Phiny already posted. On the same page you did

As a Lemur, you shouldn't be fighting in a way that requires armor of any sort. If you are, I will personally come and denounce you on behalf of the entire Lemurian race. We're above that sort of barbarism. If you can't find a way to do away with your antagonist more gracefully, then perhaps you should be off running a culinary establishment somewhere...

That's a very stereotypical view of Lemurs. I know at least one who's quite the inelegant psychopath

[Parallo]

I know at least one who's quite the inelegant psychopath

Tell us who so that we may denounce him.

[lordraleigh]

I know at least one who's quite the inelegant psychopath

Tell us who so that we may denounce him.

Vexusssssssssssssssss isssssss not psssychopath!

[emeraldfool]

I know at least one who's quite the inelegant psychopath

Tell us who so that we may denounce him.

Vexusssssssssssssssss isssssss not psssychopath!

...
Yes, thank you Lord.

[Parallo]

I thought he was a Xacha.

[emeraldfool]

Why would you think that? I never told you what race he was


But this is more than a little irrelevant...

[Parallo]

I could've sworn you said that once. Anyway yeah, he should be ashamed.

[Garris Shrike]

No I mean read the story. He hasnt posted after me yet.

[Thasa]

As a Lemur, you shouldn't be fighting in a way that requires armor of any sort.

Well, with that logic, maybe you should be fighting naked?

Proper robes can protect a Lemur against magic attacks. Surely, as a Lemur, you should've known that.

If you are, I will personally come and denounce you on behalf of the entire Lemurian race. We're above that sort of barbarism. If you can't find a way to do away with your antagonist more gracefully, then perhaps you should be off running a culinary establishment somewhere...

Apparently, Lemurs are quite easy to upset. But go ahead and "denounce" me. Maybe I'll run my "culinary establishment" by your "villa", so the smoke gets into your windows and forces you to move.

Truth be told that confuses me. I would not include any clothing in an "armor" skill personally

Armor also has a definition of being a protective covering of any sort (from dictionary.com). Robes can protect against magic attacks and boost stats, for example. Considering that magic is so prevalent in the game, the robes' protection shouldn't be thought of as purely based on physical thickness and toughness or only in terms of melee combat.

Just to give an example, many MMORPGs list robes as "Type - Light Armor (Cloth)".

Priests wearing robes are often referred to as "Men of Cloth", so if the robes are blessed by a deity, they can perhaps offer a spiritual protection.

Having said that, I'm leaning more towards Xacha, since I can master Light Armor, even if it doesn't include robes, which means I can get the penalty to Agility down to zero, and still be able to wear robes (probably as a back item). Now that's a great recipe for a magic user.

And that's my "culinary establishment".

[Phinehas]

If you need robes to protect you from magic, then you really shouldn't be fighting. We Lemurs have everything we need up here *taps temple*. If you don't, if you need something beyond your own mind to protect you, if you require some sort of outside protection, then you were not meant to be a Lemur warrior.

[Seytra]

PS: rank 8? Hope that is refering to something else then the rank 8 we have now when training skills, becuase that would really makes me question how they even survived as a race

Perhaps the explanation is that realistically, there wouldn't be a duel every 5 seconds? At least that would explain how all the crafters and merchants and other non-fighters are able to survive... Also, in the Lemur race description there is absolutely nothing that suggests that they are in any way inclined to fight.

Abilities and fields of interest
They have a clever intellect, superior to the other races. The Lemurs are brilliant artist, innate aesthete and researchers of beauty in all its forms.

Seriously, picking a Lemur for fighting seems to be pretty much out of place, even without the armor limit (which likely won't be a hard cap, anyway).

[emeraldfool]

Seriously, picking a Lemur for fighting seems to be pretty much out of place, even without the armor limit (which likely won't be a hard cap, anyway).

Well, it would be out-of-place. But in a world where pretty much all you can do is fight (or have vastly inferior stats and skills compared to those who do), it isn't that unusual to want even combat proficiency...

'Course all that should change in the future, but with the current mechanics, a dwarf who spends all day fighting in the arena could have max intelligence (through training), and the Lemur who reads books all day and doesn't fight at all would still have his starting INT. And if you claim to be smarter than the guy who never leaves the arena, it's called god-modding

So, really, these 'racial disadvantages' should only really be applied after we have the means to compensate for them (e.g. when reading will increase your Lemur's stats and abilities, as an alternative to slaying trepors), to be totally fair to the players...

[Seytra]

Well, it would be out-of-place. But in a world where pretty much all you can do is fight (or have vastly inferior stats and skills compared to those who do), it isn't that unusual to want even combat proficiency...

'Course all that should change in the future, but with the current mechanics, a dwarf who spends all day fighting in the arena could have max intelligence (through training), and the Lemur who reads books all day and doesn't fight at all would still have his starting INT. And if you claim to be smarter than the guy who never leaves the arena, it's called god-modding

Yes, it's really a sad state of affairs that on one hand we are supposed to RP, and on the other hand we are also supposed to RP only what we have stat-wise, effectively forcing us to grind in the most OOC way concievable.

So, really, these 'racial disadvantages' should only really be applied after we have the means to compensate for them (e.g. when reading will increase your Lemur's stats and abilities, as an alternative to slaying trepors), to be totally fair to the players...

That's not possible for RP purposes, though, since one obviously can't RP a Lemur melee warrior with heavy armor just because you have to use havy armor and also keep fighting to be able to train what you actually want to RP.
I assume that these limitations won't be put in place in terms of game mechanics for quite a while, but we shouldn't RP something that isn't in the settings, even though it is currently possible by the implementation.
Then again, it's impossible to put in place all dis/advantages at once, so there will be times when the ingame balance is severely skewed. This is one more reason to be wary of calling things godmoding. Clearly one must apply a great deal of thought and common sense to avoid godmoding, and I agree that this can be hard even for advanced RPers, so there often is justification to stick with the actual stats. This shouldn't be applied as blanket restriction, though.