9/11 re-opened

[LARAGORN]

I dont know if people here are aware of the discovery of errors in the live video broadcast from the BBC.

BBC Reported Building 7 Had Collapsed 20 Minutes Before It Fell.

An astounding video uncovered from the archives today shows the BBC reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell. The incredible footage shows BBC reporter talking about the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building while it remains standing in the live shot behind her head.

The footage keeps disappearing, and the BBC has deleted it from its achives.
Try these links, I dont know how long they will stay there.
part 1
part 2
part 3

With all the contraversy around 'Building 7" in the past, this really makes me question everything a lot more. You can read the responces in the first link to see how different the opinions are, but watch the footage and decide for yourself.

[Vulcas]

Maybe this will finally shut up the blind critics who are quick to label anyone a "conspiracy theorist", if they mention a government (or other party) cover-up or pre-engineered crime.

I'm not gonna hold my breath for any apologies from "debunkers". They'd probably "debunk" a bomb out of their backyard, even if it blew up their house.

[zanzibar]

What was the IPO probe again?

@Vulcas:  Reason and facts rarely affect people who have a religious fervour for their beliefs, and there are such individuals on both sides of the argument.

[Parallo]

If you theorise about conspiracys you are a conspiracy theorist Vulcas.

[zanzibar]

If you theorise about conspiracys you are a conspiracy theorist Vulcas.

True, but I think Laragorn is simply trying to point out "factual inconsistencies" of the "public conciousness".

I have no doubt that there was more happening on 9/11 then what we're told about.  From what I've read, it seems likely that there were bombs placed in the towers - it would then make sense that there were bombs in the smaller building as well.  Crews at the scene smelt explosives, and the science behind the collapse of the buildings suggests explosives as well.

Does that mean the government was behind it?  Not necessarily.

Does it mean that the terrorists were working with the government?  Not necessarily.

Does it mean that the terrorists infiltrated parts of the government?  Not necessarily.

There are a lot of different possibilities and I don't know enough myself to say which one is true.

[LARAGORN]

If you read some of the comments in the first link, you see some people think that the Truth seekers made the video LOL  I thought that was funny. Some ask how do we know that is building 7 in the background, and it isnt just some other building. All we need is a New Yorker to go to the exact window and take a picture, if the building is still there, then it is a hoax, if it is not..... well there needs to be a lot of explaining.

It is a shame that some people atomaticly think lunatic when they here the words Conspiracy and theory put together. A simple look in the dictionary shows absolutly no reference to tin foil hats or UFOs or the Illuminate and so on. I have no issues at all being called a Conspiracy theorist, If in fact there is a conspiracy, you have to be a theorist to discuss it otherwise it would not be a conspiracy. Without the intent of secrecy it is not a conspiracy.


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If you theorise about conspiracys you are a conspiracy theorist Vulcas.

True, but I think Laragorn is simply trying to point out "factual inconsistencies" of the "public conciousness".

I have no doubt that there was more happening on 9/11 then what we're told about.  From what I've read, it seems likely that there were bombs placed in the towers - it would then make sense that there were bombs in the smaller building as well.  Crews at the scene smelt explosives, and the science behind the collapse of the buildings suggests explosives as well.

Does that mean the government was behind it?  Not necessarily.

Does it mean that the terrorists were working with the government?  Not necessarily.

Does it mean that the terrorists infiltrated parts of the government?  Not necessarily.

There are a lot of different possibilities and I don't know enough myself to say which one is true.

I agree with you Zanzi that the explosive do not confirm a direct link to government involvment, but... if you look at OPERATION NORTHWOODS it sheds a different light on the matter.

[Shangreloo]

For those of us who have worked in the aviation industry, there are a great many things about 911 that simply don't add up.

[ThomPhoenix]

If you are going to make such claims, please elaborate on them.

[Idoru]

I personally dont see what difference that news clip from the BBC makes. Remember that we are talking about one of the (possibly THE) biggest media story in the history of TV media. Also, add to that that the extract is taken from a rolling news channel (it may say BBC World but all footage and information is take directly from BBC News24), now I love the BBC, and actually sat and watched this story unfold on BBC News24, but they do make errors on occassion (I often watch this channel for several hours on end anyway  ). The BBC is fantastic, but it is not infallible.

As for the main point of the original post, ive always had certain suspicions about this subject.

[emeraldfool]

Meh, I think I'll just choke down the corporate lies and keep the wool over my eyes. It's warm and fuzzy under there...

[zanzibar]

Idoru:  A prophesy is more than a mistake.  We're talking about an extremely unlikely event, but they "predicted" the specific building, and they did so less than half an hour before it happened.

[Idoru]

Im sure that I  heard that one of the buildings was actually demolished due to 'instability', the one that had the CIA offices in it and the DOD offices. Maybe it was confusion about a building due to be demolished and one actually collapsing.

[LARAGORN]

Im sure that I  heard that one of the buildings was actually demolished due to 'instability', the one that had the CIA offices in it and the DOD offices. Maybe it was confusion about a building due to be demolished and one actually collapsing.

Are you actually thinking about what you are saying ?

Do you know how long it takes to set up a building of that size for demolition ? Weeks

What building was due to be demolished ? I have heard nothing about a scheduled demolition.

Maybe I am confused and missed the new construction standards that make builders install explosives so the building can be demolished at the drop of a hat.

[Xus]

For those of us who have worked in the aviation industry, there are a great many things about 911 that simply don't add up.

If you are going to make such claims, please elaborate on them.

Haha wow, no kidding.  Nothing quite like creating a sentence to pique peoples' curiosity and then just dropping it.  
Plus I'm awfully curious to hear what you have to say.

But this is realli quite interesting... because just a while back I was reading a Wikipedia article about Richard Linklater (writer/director of Waking Life, Slacker, Dazed and Confused, A Scanner Darkly, etc) and it said that he was a supporter of Alex Jones' conspiracy theories, his 9/11 theory being that the U.S. allowed (or orchestrated; I can't recall which) the event to happen in order to establish a police state and have an excuse to transcend ordinary rights.  And it wouldn't be too hard to imagine that if the U.S. knew in advance and allowed the event, then Europe knew as well.  So really, this fits right in with that theory, and even makes it more palatable and believable as a real possibility.

And maybe I'm just stretching it a whole lot with what I'm about to say next, so forgive me if I am, but does anyone else recall that the original projections of the number of fatalities from 9/11 were around llike 6000, and it in fact came out to about 3000?  The fact that they were THAT far off sort of seems a bit suspicious... But that's probably a stretch.

[zanzibar]

And maybe I'm just stretching it a whole lot with what I'm about to say next, so forgive me if I am, but does anyone else recall that the original projections of the number of fatalities from 9/11 were around llike 6000, and it in fact came out to about 3000?  The fact that they were THAT far off sort of seems a bit suspicious... But that's probably a stretch.

The original projections were in excess of 50,000.... not 6,000.....