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Water, beer, and cider...
« on: March 09, 2007, 08:01:00 pm »
Some of you planeshifters obviously do some actual sports, and maybe excersise a bit. And after doing alot of those things, well, it takes it out of you, so you obviously rest a bit, and drink some water.

Currently in PS, water, beer, and cider, restore health, but wouldn't it make more since to restore physical stanima? After all, if you run a marathon, you're tired and need some water, does that mean you're injured? well, no, it means you're thirsty because of how much energy you burnt up IE: physical stanima. And drinking water would help restore that energy.

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Re: Water, beer, and cider...
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 08:09:53 pm »
That is correct, but there are two problems with that. Physical stamina regenerates too fast for this to be worthwhile. It cannot be made slower, though, because then frustration would skyrocket, even if there were means of transport besides running available, which is not the case. Also, the weight of the food means that physical stamina drains significantly faster, so basically it is equally or more effective to have no food with you in the first place.
Obviosly, food must give something since otherwise it'd be useless, so it's giving HP (and let's face it, it still is pretty much useless, especially since weight / capacity is the bigger problem, not the higher prices for the health potions, which also give much more HP than food).
Adding the need to eat has the problem of tediousness and turning PS into The Sims, which is no solution, either.

Edit: possibly if a single item of food would completely restore physical stamina (maybe still give a small bit of health), this might be doable, though. Basically making it so that not much weight is needed (so no excess stamina drain), but one can keep running using food. The additional benefit is that one doesn't end up to swallowing an entire banquet as it is now (eating 30 breads (not slices!) in a row without getting stomach problems). :)
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Re: Water, beer, and cider...
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 08:40:08 pm »
I actually lean towards food being a pre-buff, not a quick fix. If you know you are going to be running to Oja, then you eat a good meal, thereby slowing your stamina drain for the next hour. Water could be a quick fix on the road, increasing the restore rate. Nothing should give you instant stamina back.

However, for this to work, the current stamina gain would have to be reduced. Would this be much of a problem? I don't think it would. For one thing, it would give cooks an actual purpose. For another, a meal could last a few hours. Third, you would never actually -have- to eat, as it is only a buff.

Another use for food I would like to see is training buffs. depending on the type of food you eat, the faster you could learn certain skills. High energy (sugars) foods would give you a fast boost for learning how to do fighting skills, or intelligece related skills (ask college folks about this), but would wear off rather fast. Good solid protein (meats and such) foods would give you long lasting, but slower training buffs, and would increase physical growth.

Again, you would never actually -have- to eat, but it would add an iteresting aspect to training and stamina in the way of buffs, and finding out what foods do the best for what tasks. Being a good cook would become quite profitable. By the way, Beer + running.... now that is an anti-buff. ;)

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Re: Water, beer, and cider...
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 09:01:14 pm »
Sounds decent. It would also reduce the amount of food required for noticable effect.
High energy (sugars) (ask college folks about this), but would wear off rather fast.
Don't forget the other important drug, coffee.
By the way, Beer + running.... now that is an anti-buff. ;)
And a way to recycle the "tipsy" bug into a feature.

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Re: Water, beer, and cider...
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 11:48:34 pm »
Well, drugs are another issue all together, and I am not sure I would like to see that in the game. If a system of law was put in place...then maybe.

I would rather just stick to food, then we don't have to impliment a drug making skill.

Ah yes. There would be one thing that would be an instant stamina boost, that being magic potions. However, I am of the mind that all magic potions should be very expensive.

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Re: Water, beer, and cider...
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2007, 02:12:48 am »
Well, drugs are another issue all together, and I am not sure I would like to see that in the game. If a system of law was put in place...then maybe.
I used the term "drug" even though it's not necessarily appropriate for coffee. However, we already have alcohol in PS, which is a drug. I, too, am not sure if we should have other drugs, though, ingame law or not. People are very eager to use mushrooms as drugs for RP purposes, though, even if they don't have any druglike effect, but that is, of course, unofficial.
I would rather just stick to food, then we don't have to impliment a drug making skill.
I assume that alchemy can do that.
Ah yes. There would be one thing that would be an instant stamina boost, that being magic potions. However, I am of the mind that all magic potions should be very expensive.
Since magic is so universal, and since most "magic" potions will in reality be alchemistic "mundane" stuff, they are't necessarily expensive. I expect there to be a wide variety of potions, even of the same general function (like healing) in the end, with different speed, effectiveness, price and possibly side-effects.

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Re: Water, beer, and cider...
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2007, 03:13:27 am »
actually this would be great for long trips, such as the one to the Bronze Doors.  Also, anyone who runs regularly can tell you what a difference drinking a bit of water makes, the results are almost instant.
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Re: Water, beer, and cider...
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 01:27:47 am »
Yeah, marathon runners drink water as their running because it instantly cools down their system and replenishes lost hydration (like utM said - a 'quick fix')


I was actually about to make this suggestion myself. Healing up all your cuts and wounds just by eating 20 pies in fifteen seconds doesn't make any sense at all :P It gets annoying - especially for elves with minuscule endurance/stamina - on a trip to BD, where you spend 2 minutes running, then 2 minutes resting, then 2 minutes running, 2 resting, etc.

With a good, healthy meal (like oatmeal) you should be able to keep on going for a while...


However where do you draw the line between alchemy and cooking? And why would you possibly need to bake/cook other than to create specific RP items, if not this?