Iron more common?

[emeraldfool]

(I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, so I'm not sure where it should go...)

Lately I've been noticing Iron being FAR easier to dig up. Even easier than gold. Normally (with lvl 10 in mining) it takes me 1-3 tries for a gold ore (maybe 1.5 on average) and about 5-8 tries for iron (7 on average).

Lately it's taken me an average of about 0.5 tries to dig up iron. I've been getting 5 irons in a row, then one miss, then 5 irons, then one miss. One time I got a chain of 12 ores without a single miss.

The most bizarre thing is there was a guy standing next to me who got 1 ore in the time it took me to get 16, and he had nearly double my level in mining (he had lvl 17)! When I had gotten my 10th ore in a row, he was on his 10th unsuccessful try in a row.


I'm just wondering what the heck is going on. Is my Irish Luck on overdrive today (and if it is I'd rather use it on a lotto ticket than virtual iron lumps ), or has iron been made easier to mine and that other guy was just very unlucky...?

[Radiant Memphis]

  I've always noticed (and I don't know how true it really is and I am sure some will disagree) that when someone of a higher level is around the person of the lower level seem to benefit much more. Even in killing stuff for loot. For instance, I could be killing a certain rouge I know to give ok loot once in a while maybe every 8-10 tries. Now say with someone much higher level than me over all. Meaning stats. and skills maxed or higher than mine in the same group or even killing around me can raise the possibility of my looting and getting something good to 3-4 kills or less (seems especially true in grouped settings but varies). On the other hand I have also noticed the higher level persons chances drop dramatically having a lower level person around them (again may vary in grouped situations). Making it less likely to get good loot or ore where they otherwise alone. Of course this is all stipulation and theory I have been testing out in my couple years in PS. So far it seems to work this way for me. I would be interested in further testing this theory if anyone is up for it. Send me a PM if interested or find me in game.
  So, the idea is that with the higher level person grouped or just nearby helps the lower person. Just like in real life when a more knowledgeable person is around the less experienced person can benefit from it. Either by watching or interacting and getting help from the more experienced person. Of course this same idea also works with mining as well.

::Edit:: Opps I forgot to include my point. That being the ore is not more common just that the higher level person was around and you benefited from his higher level. Then again I have no consistent proof and wasn't there, but that is my theory.

[emeraldfool]

Actually this has been going on over the course of several trips to the mines, most of the time with me being on my own.
In fact, there's very rarely another person besides me in the Iron mine that I frequent.

And regardless of another person or not being there I've noticed this sudden increase in striking Iron...


Not that your theory is incorrect - it may be a factor, just not the primary reason...

[Radiant Memphis]

Hmm...well sir, I would have to say you found a nice vein of iron then. To bad you can't stockpile it and start a nice little iron ore selling business or Organization with it, or can you? 

[emeraldfool]

Hmm...well sir, I would have to say you found a nice vein of iron then. To bad you can't stockpile it and start a nice little iron ore selling business or Organization with it, or can you? 

I just might, actually. Since I can mine it about twice as fast as gold, I'd be willing to part with it for half as much

[John80sk]

the spot where you mine is far more important than your level.

Also, Jangeol tends to buy iron ore for as much as he pays for gold

[Caarrie]

bug trackered already

[emeraldfool]

bug trackered already

This is not the same issue at all.

That issue is where lvl doesn't effect mining, and is generally random. This issue is the opposite - mining Iron is not random at all, I always get copious amounts no matter what I do...

[Idoru]

I had noticed something similar, but it really does seem to matter where you stand, if you find 2 'sweet spots' and just move back and forth between them you seem to strike iron each time.

[emeraldfool]

I had noticed something similar, but it really does seem to matter where you stand, if you find 2 'sweet spots' and just move back and forth between them you seem to strike iron each time.

Actually, I always work under the theory that the 'sweet spot' changes every few seconds. I'm not sure if that's right or not, but I tend to dart randomly around the mine in an effort to 'catch' it.

In any case, that has little effect on my seemingly limitless luck either...

[Heyok]

Personally, i think your just over reacting to common sense. OF COURSE IT"S EASIER TO MINE IRON COMPARED TO GOLD!   Iron is more common then gold. why do you think the guys in the dark ages had so much iron, but not a lot of gold? i mean, that's what makes gold more valuable!  retard smiley says "wow..... gold looks so pretty......."

[emeraldfool]

Personally, i think your just over reacting to common sense. OF COURSE IT"S EASIER TO MINE IRON COMPARED TO GOLD!   Iron is more common then gold. why do you think the guys in the dark ages had so much iron, but not a lot of gold? i mean, that's what makes gold more valuable!  retard smiley says "wow..... gold looks so pretty......."

*patient smile*

I'm talking about Planeshift here. In Planeshift, until recently (gold has been made far harder to mine recently) Iron was a lot harder to mine than gold. It was unrealistic, but that's the way the mechanics worked.


Also, there's a difference in rarity and ease of mining. Titanium is an extremely common mineral, and is about as strong as steel but far lighter. Yet steel is used far more in industry because Titanium is incredibly hard and expensive to mine.

[Karyuu]

Maybe it's not that iron is easier to mine, but rather that gold is running out.

[Nikodemus]

Maybe it's not that iron is easier to mine, but rather that gold is running out.

Exactly.
Although, if gold is harder to mine than iron now, this is nice. Even if walkaround.
Although in future i except that mines of raw materials will be owned by companies who hire their workers and they can have part of what they mine. This way players can still mine by themselves, for themselves, but the market isn't flowed by the gold, because the company is limiting it.
A less realistic way out, although fun, is running around and prospecting for different resources. If you are lucky you find a bit of some resource, which is generated by some kind randomized formula. There is also chance for gold and other raw materials. Thats another way to control amount of gold on the market.

[emeraldfool]

Maybe it's not that iron is easier to mine, but rather that gold is running out.

Actually, I was raving about this before I even knew about the new gold shortage (See first post: "Normally (with lvl 10 in mining) it takes me 1-3 tries for a gold ore (maybe 1.5 on average)" - gold now takes me about 10-12 tries)


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