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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #75 on: April 05, 2007, 09:39:01 pm »
The resposnes in this thread have all been positive, so I am mystifyied as to why participation is so awful. If there are any suggestions forum members would like to make, please make them - I am more than willing to listen, discuss, and encourage. But I'm not feeling any life here, and it disappoints me.
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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2007, 09:52:54 pm »
Well people seem to be imspired by pretty sigs. Maybe have a editors choice type thing where you say what you think of certain guilds to get the ball rolling. Possibaly make it so people can say who they have voted for and why to try and up pacipitaion?

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« Reply #77 on: April 05, 2007, 10:02:12 pm »
About what @Narure said...

     I do not agree with having guild advantages in the form of unique items among other in-game things as it will turn this Spotlight into a heavy competition, besides being completely OOC. It's not what I fancy GMs giving rewards to guilds that "meet their objectives", specially due to the fact many RP-based guilds have objectives that aren't quite achievable with the currently avaliable game systems of this alpha release, and in fact will encourage people seeking objectives like "Kill 10 Ulbernauts", "Mine lots of gold to get 500k" and the like for their guilds, crumbling into a never seen before level of mediocrity.

     Finally, GM supporting exclusively a single guild? Events already are done sparsely due to the lack of time/matching timezones, and now they will happen only to a single guild for a determinated timeframe while the rest of the community remains dry on GM Events? I do not think so. If there are going to be advantages for those that come to the spotlight, they should definitively be OOC and out-of-game ones.

     And lastly this may open space for biased "rewardings" of guilds as well, as we humans are prone to be influenced by such things, one way or another, and sometimes they just happen.

Well people seem to be imspired by pretty sigs. Maybe have a editors choice type thing where you say what you think of certain guilds to get the ball rolling. Possibaly make it so people can say who they have voted for and why to try and up pacipitaion?

An "Editor's Choice" perhaps is a good idea, if handled by people that are expected to have a higher NPOV than most(mature people with "unguilded" characters in dev team perhaps). Making it in a way people have say who they have voted for and why is something that won't fix anything at all, what really is needed is larger numbers of people voting.

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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #78 on: April 05, 2007, 10:44:08 pm »
Well i was just brain storming so I'm glad you looked at the ideas constructivly. The idea behind the saying why you voted for a certain guild would be that it may inspire people to vote. I wasnt saying that those things in my post before my last wouldnt be rewards but an idea to help guilds in ways other than the spot light. So helping RPs if requested would just be something that could be added because at the moment GMs cant interfere with player RPs for some reason but if a guild were to ask for assitance maybe it could be given which im sure would encourage guilds to RP more.

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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2007, 11:23:35 pm »
The resposnes in this thread have all been positive, so I am mystifyied as to why participation is so awful. If there are any suggestions forum members would like to make, please make them - I am more than willing to listen, discuss, and encourage. But I'm not feeling any life here, and it disappoints me.

Too many guilds, too many choices.

One suggestion I have is to have PM nominations, once you have, lets say 5 guilds nominated, create a poll.
People will have a defined selection to vote from. The spotlight guild will then be exempt from the next voting cycles.

You could also randomly pick 5 active guilds to include in the poll, so each guild has an equal chance of being selected.

There were 17 votes in the last spotlight, that is only a few more than the number of posters in this thread. I dont think enough people know about this. Maybe throw up a parchment on the bullitin boards, send a town cryer out to inform the non-regular forum members.
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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #80 on: April 06, 2007, 06:58:35 pm »
Thanks Laragorn, I definitely need a way to give better incentives to people to participate :)

Let's see how this works, as there are two guilds tied with the same amount of votes. Before I go on with the decided "open poll" option, are there any immediate suggestions on how to make this more interesting to you guys?
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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #81 on: April 06, 2007, 09:39:50 pm »
I agree, a poll is much better to use than the current system. This is what I see as the main deterrent - 1) the non-obviousness of the guilds on vote and 2) the means of voting.
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« Reply #82 on: April 06, 2007, 09:50:33 pm »
Or just put all the guildnames in a hat and randomly draw the one to spotlight.

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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #83 on: April 10, 2007, 01:29:51 pm »
hmmm I like the first interview :) Very much Natrina ;)
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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #84 on: April 12, 2007, 04:51:07 pm »
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I agree, a poll is much better to use than the current system. This is what I see as the main deterrent - 1) the non-obviousness of the guilds on vote and 2) the means of voting.
It's indeed unfortunate that people have to be told what to do.
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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #85 on: April 12, 2007, 07:01:25 pm »
It might have been nice if all nominated guilds had been an option in the voting, so at least people could see which there is interest in. Maybe it was thought to take up too much space, but at least it would have put guild leaders on notice that their turn might be immanent.

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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #86 on: April 12, 2007, 08:40:00 pm »
The other guilds will be revealed when the winning one is chosen. They're not in the poll because the poll is only a tie-breaker, it's not a method of choosing from all the submitted nominations.
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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #87 on: April 13, 2007, 04:56:50 am »
I think the concepts is a good idea.

Suggestions for getting the word out or reminding others, making a note in the MoTD, or possibly flashing "Don't forget to vote in the guild spotlight..." in the system tab every once in a while when players login.  I still read the message there when I login.

Another aside, I need more posts to vote as I'm not allowed PM's yet and sadly thinking about who you wish to vote for doesn't count.  :)

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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #88 on: April 13, 2007, 06:32:57 am »
I only just put my vote in for round 2  :-[

I seen it's now down to 2, was it a split decision that will be decided on by a vote or did something else happen?

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Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
« Reply #89 on: April 13, 2007, 06:39:30 am »
Let's see how this works, as there are two guilds tied with the same amount of votes.

Explained that here and in the poll thread :) The poll is a tie-breaker.
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