RP or not Rp ... is that the question?

[Fozzharn]

well, I'm not sure if this is real complaining but I think it fits best in here.

Talkin' about RP sometimes gets pretty worse in and around this forum.

I read people called names like "RP-Nazi" and "RP-Taliban" here, which is not my way but it made me thinking.

Sure, Planeshift is an RP-based game and that is finally why I'm here.

But ....

It can not be all about RP because the possibilities of the game make it in some cases necessary to "powerlevel" (don't like that word actually ... but anyway)

Take me as an example ... I want to be a high quality weapon smithy and I do not only want to RP that ... I want to craft high quality weapon and even sell them ... (in RPing it !)

What does that mean ?   Powerlevelling metallurgy, blacksmithing and e.g. Knife making to reach the quality I want to craft and to finally RP my "Quality-Smithy-Character"

What does that mean ?  I have to powerlevel my combat abilities to finally be able to earn the PP for my crafting training.


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another example ...

what about someone who wants to be a great, highly skilled warrior who wants to tell stories about killing an Ulber all by himself ... he should powerlevel to reach this ability ....


So, where's your beef you ask ...

Well, when I hear (read) all these topics, posts and threads about RPing ... it all sounds as if nobody should train any skiill at all! (This would be somekind of a chat-room for me then ... not a game)


When I think about real life (am I allowed to?) I see that working as a crafter is a long day working and working ...and you sometimes don't speak a word the whole day ... your freetime is reduced to max 2 hours in the evening ... having a beer maybe and talk to some people.

So if you want to seriously RP this ... well ... you can imagine what I mean.

So what I want to complain about is, that some RP Enthusiasts often give me the feeling that I'm doing wrong when I train the skills I want my Character to have ... to finally RP it as it should appear.

Anyone understood me ?  (Same pity all the time, when I read my posts back I hate my english writing)

[zanzibar]

If you do it while in character, I think you're fine.

The problem is people who go OOC constantly or who RP "just enough" to get away with duel spamming and harassing people.

What's worse is the people who defend others when they go OOC.

noob> by the gods wer d o 1 kill  sum ratz
rpnazi> Please don't go OOC in public chat.
idiot> [Shut up, he's just asking a question!]

[Idoru]

I think you are totally within your rights to power level to attain some level for a purpose. I think the term Power-Leveler normally refers to someone doing the leveling for the sake of it. Without a clearly defined purpose. Or just so they can declare they are 'l33t'.

If you go to either of the smithing areas you will see lots of people crafting and I doubt many of them are creating one-off items. Most I would expect are trying to level their skills.

[zanzibar]

I think you are totally within your rights to power level to attain some level for a purpose. I think the term Power-Leveler normally refers to someone doing the leveling for the sake of it. Without a clearly defined purpose. Or just so they can declare they are 'l33t'.

If you go to either of the smithing areas you will see lots of people crafting and I doubt many of them are creating one-off items. Most I would expect are trying to level their skills.

The answer to my mind is to make it easier to max out skills while at the same time limiting the number of skills you can excel in.  So you'd have to basically dedicate your character to a certain trade.

[Idoru]

The simple soloution to this problem would be just to allow players to set their skills and stats at character creation. I cant see this being implemented however.

[bilbous]

Hmm set your skills at CC not bad, better is subsequent use\disuse increases\decreases ability levels so that you have x number of allocation points to create with then things you use: get better with time and things you do not: degrade. The current system can be kept to accelerate advancement.

[Quitarias]

heh bilbous your going into the "sugestions" frame with that post maybe move the idea to the wishlist because personaly i think its great (and maybe try search i think ive read something like it a while back)

[Rayken]

In response to the initial query, as long as you are IC most of the time, and properly notate your OOC text, no one should care what you do (that is, as long as you're not exploiting).  "Powerlevel" your skills all you like; it's no ones business but yours.  I do agree that it is somewhat silly to have to kill mobs to become an expert crafter, but keep in mind that this is a system in the works.  I don't think these silly aspects will be around forever, and as such it's best to just RP around them.

[Peacer]

The simple soloution to this problem would be just to allow players to set their skills and stats at character creation. I cant see this being implemented however.

the problem about this though is that non-rp'ers would just max it all and go "!'/x\ 1337 ! |*\x/|\| .|00"

[Idoru]

The simple soloution to this problem would be just to allow players to set their skills and stats at character creation. I cant see this being implemented however.

the problem about this though is that non-rp'ers would just max it all and go "!'/x\ 1337 ! |*\x/|\| .|00"

Does the kind of person who runs round saying that know what an apostrophe is for?

Either way, They will certainly get bored quicker and leave

[zanzibar]

Either way, They will certainly get bored quicker and leave

I know how to make them leave more quickly!

[bilbous]

So it is settled then? Any newb we want to get rid of is forced to spend the next 24 on-line hours with Zanzibar! 1 Kran -->> 2 Klyros!


More seriously @ Peacer wouldn't that just get them laughed at? An oldbie could just put on his ring of the past and be 20 points better than the best.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

* Xillix Queen of Fools <---powerlever

There is nothing wrong with training your skills. In fact, this is what is intended. Hopefully we can strike some balance for the crafters and miners to free them from hacking at monsters. Yliakum is a dangerous place, most well known personages should probably be able to weild a weapon at least decently.

Personally (not speaking as dev) I have trouble with people who play roles their stats do not endorse. I think you should be what you say you are. Imagination is the root of all roleplay i think PS provides a place where imagination and "experience" combine. Players who have had the most success with player events and such have effectively told stories with the tools ps provides for them.

[Sunshine]

Hello everybody !

I am completly with you Fozzharn. At the moment the complaints from RP-only members are something to complain about.
I am often under the impression that most of them are better off with a chatroom than in a game with mechanics.

I also pray that the dev's do not read these threads because if I would be a dev of PS I would stop to develope the game machine because it looks like it is not needed. Please dev's don't do that - there are players in this game who want to have some RP AND the game mechanics, because both is fun.

cu IC

Sunshine

[zanzibar]

For the record, I don't RP much because I don't see much of it happening, and when I do see it happening it's usually between characters that my character shouldn't associate with.

And I'd also count as a powerleveller - I have a lot of maxed stats.

Do I do see both sides of things!