Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....

[Nurahk]

Let's look at it this way.  Does anybody really care about that square plot of land?

No

That's why there is no real problem.  You can go on about the arrogance of the DE if you want, I'll admit to that.
But, all in all, unless some NPCs or something are added to the game, I see nothing wrong with it.

[Narure]

IC you do not own this land. Who ever the settings team says owns the land owns the land. So by saying it is your land and using it IC you are working against the law... Sounds like an interesting RP to me, fair enough, but there will be repercusions one would assume.

*edit*

also you are setting a bad example which could lead to every square inch of unused land being owned by every bob and bill.

[Nurahk]

I agree with you to an extent Narure.  But, the land is useless.  The only reason we are laying claim to it is because of a lack of content.

As for setting the example, if my Zoneinfo.xml file is correct, it won't be set for much longer

[Narure]

- <zonelist>
- <!--  guildhouse
  -->
- <zone sector="guildhouse" loadimage="Loading Background">
  <region map="guildhouse" />
  </zone>

I take it we are talking about this? It could be months untill we see this, whatever it may turn out to be. All that while we have everyone who can think up the most mundane RP reason owning land because "its unused"

[ThomPhoenix]

The Empire doesn't own that land, they just rent the houses surrounding that small square together with some other guilds to use as a meeting area.
Problem solved.

[Narure]

how do you rent houses you dont own?

[bilbous]

This is really a tempest in a teacup. Anyone ever see that movie "The Warriors"

Warriors, come out to play-i-ay.

[drah]

The Empire doesn't own that land, they just rent the houses surrounding that small square together with some other guilds to use as a meeting area.
Problem solved.

Suddenly a fellow player came to me and told me that I was moving on "Imperial Ground" and I would have to leave to prevent from "consequences".

[Narure]

Its like the time the Outlaws took over brados tavern. Sure there is an NPC there but IC its the same idea. But we knew it was illegal and perfectly expected to be kicked out, very pomptly after a GM sent a wave of shouts through the NPCs we were. So yes. Empire should clear out quick unless they want to be kicked out by their behinds.

[ThomPhoenix]

Well actually I just executed that disciplinary action ..

It isn't in this case and it has been dealt with accordingly, please read everything before bringing up arguments.

Drah, please read the thread

[Sangwa]

Imperial Ground doesn't mean we have conquered it. We can rent things and call them our ground. It's quite normal. Ever rented an apartment?

It's not normal to have a person threatened to death for entering, but since we consider we have rented it, it is normal that we act protective towards it. I've seen many guilds take spaces before, like the Felines Lair, and the Survivors of Vaern that share that same place with us.

If you think it is not allowed, please, do report it to a Game Master. We follow the rules and we'll do as any person from the DE team tells us to. None of you, however, has the authority to to tell us to move though. I believe some of you might be as childish and frustrated, since you can't bother or get the Empire's attention in any other way, as to actually use out-of-character reasoning to importunate us with pseudo in-character actions. We don't mind. Unlike some people, we do know when to report to Game Masters.

EDIT: Yes Don't make me feel worst than I do -_- Someone delete that thing. I'm so not used to having two accounts in one forum...

[Parallo]

I think this is hilarious.

[Narure]

You have not explained in anyway how your actions are not illegal IC. You cant just consider that you have rented it because that like me considering that I'm good friends with all the gaurds and the government so I can do what I like and break any law I like. Godmodding. Just because others have done it doesnt make it right.

[bilbous]

I dunno if some street gang wants to claim territory it seems a perfectly legitimate excuse for a war. Squatters rights are only as good as the force needed to keep them. I do not particularly hear in this thread any out of context claim to ownership of the land seeing as how such is not possible. Indeed the fact that the empire co-exists with a couple others is proof enough. Now if you are challenged by an empire dude, just say you are there to talk to .... D'OH! someone removed the names of the other two guilds...

[Parallo]

@Narure: We're not dictating the morals of the government.