Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....

[Nikodemus]

I dunno if some street gang wants to claim territory it seems a perfectly legitimate excuse for a war.

Just like merchants restricted they rich winch area from wide public? Only i can't see people ganging against them.

[bilbous]

Rich people have always been able to buy the laws they want from greedy government officials. In this case it is not yet possible for players to do so but it may be someday.

[Idoru]

We follow the rules and we'll do as any person from the DE team tells us to.

Freudian slip?

Anyway, where do you DE guys get the idea that this wouldnt be exactly the same conversation (with roles reversed of coures) if it was Elemental Light who had declared ownership of an area and was threatening people on entry? I dont see where the persecution complex some of you seem to be displaying is coming from.

Just like merchants restricted they rich winch area from wide public? Only i can't see people ganging against them.

Nah, the winch is off limits for security purposes. Or so I hear.

[Parallo]

As already stated, the threat was wrong and it has been dealt with. We didn't claim ownership. We claimed to be renting the property.

[Nikodemus]

Rich people have always been able to buy the laws they want from greedy government officials. In this case it is not yet possible for players to do so but it may be someday.

If we won't start now we never will.
There is no they NPCs and we Players. There are only People in the world we are shaping.

Nah, the winch is off limits for security purposes. Or so I hear.

Oh, if they say so. But this sounds suspicious from IC point of viev. Unless someone really know the reason. If not, they are just hiding themselves behind this, because they don't like random people walking there.

[bilbous]

I'll rent that property to everyone who gives me 10k tria, or any other property for that matter. Does it bother me that I have no right to do so? Not in the least. Do I give refunds? Never! Why do you feel a need to have a fig-leaf of legitimacy to your claims to the land?

[Parallo]

We don't really have to but I figure it just seems better ICly than taking it by force.

[Idoru]

Bilbous has a good idea. IC I actually rent that property to another guy who then sub-lets it to you. Im sorry to tell you this but he is breaching his lease by subletting, im going to have to have the DE evicted

[Karyuu]

Want a reward for stupidest thread of the week? Then Karyuu gets a reward for meanest post of the week ;)

Listen folks: stop whining. Yes, whining. When your complaints have no foundation aside "I don't like it," you're not sharing constructive material. People have "owned" bits and pieces of the landscape since Molecular Blue, and perhaps even before that. What is your real argument here? "They own a building but I don't like that, so I'm going to try to claim that same building just to show them they can't do that"? Do you have a real reason for being so argumentative, or are you here to waste more time and complain about roleplay?

Stupid, Pointless, Annoying Messages.

That's my summery of this entire thread. Good job.

[Narure]

I'd like to think i contributed to this and would like to thank the Dark Empire for fueling my argumentative side and all those who argued for the same side...

but seriously:

People have "owned" bits and pieces of the landscape since Molecular Blue, and perhaps even before that.

Seriously that attitude is REALLY annoying. Saying that is juat begging for an argument over burning witches. The point I've been trying to make over and over again is that it is godmodding and so bad RP. Which is nothing to be encouraged.

[Zan]

Godmodding would be controling other player actions, NPC actions or altering the settings for your own good.

Neither of these three are valid here since no other players are being controlled, no NPC's are involved and the settings say nothing about the little piece of ground the Empire rents. The only one that could possibly change would be the last .. and as soon as the settings dictate that that piece of ground belongs to someone else the Empire is out of there.

Until then you have no point whatsoever if you ask me.
 

[Nikodemus]

The point I've been trying to make over and over again is that it is godmodding and so bad RP. Which is nothing to be encouraged.

What's so damn wrong in guild having a guildhouse and some infrastructure? It is much better than assuming we all sleep on the streets, homeless.

[Karyuu]

People have "owned" bits and pieces of the landscape since Molecular Blue, and perhaps even before that.

Seriously that attitude is REALLY annoying. Saying that is juat begging for an argument over burning witches. The point I've been trying to make over and over again is that it is godmodding and so bad RP. Which is nothing to be encouraged.

Are you sure you're serious? Because there's no way I can take you seriously, myself. How is it bothering you personally, and how is it interfering with your roleplay if a group of people rent a building? Are your RPs collapsing around you and is your world in shambles?

If you have an argument to make, make it.

[Idoru]

Want a reward for stupidest thread of the week? Then Karyuu gets a reward for meanest post of the week

Listen folks: stop whining. Yes, whining. When your complaints have no foundation aside "I don't like it," you're not sharing constructive material. People have "owned" bits and pieces of the landscape since Molecular Blue, and perhaps even before that. What is your real argument here? "They own a building but I don't like that, so I'm going to try to claim that same building just to show them they can't do that"? Do you have a real reason for being so argumentative, or are you here to waste more time and complain about roleplay?

Stupid, Pointless, Annoying Messages.

That's my summery of this entire thread. Good job.

well, my point was the way they handled it. And after that bit was resolved I was just promoting healthy discussion (not trolling btw )

The point still remains that if people are threatened when going somewhere in the game it isnt going to promote a healthy environment for people. Maybe it does help with RP. EL have an area but would never consider threats to get people to leave it when we are there. They are free to just stand and watch what goes on if they wish. I fail to see why the area needs to be protected so vigorously, especially when the person 'tresspassing' was unaware of the situation and not actually doing anything wrong

[Karyuu]

Idoru: if that bit was already resolved, there is no further argument to make here. Once such actions are conceded as a wrong-doing and corrected, we can move on and discuss something more stimulating, and perhaps even useful.