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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #120 on: March 21, 2007, 08:00:01 pm »
While I hate to admit it about certain things ... nobody can arrest you for killing or robbing a person, unless you let them. So basically, yes you can chose not to accept any consequences.

This topic isn't as black and white as killing or stealing, which is an offence for anyone with a bit of common sense. Guarding your own back yard is not, it's not even an offence in most countries if it's in self defence. Tresspassing is an offence in most places however :P

Does this dismiss your argument enough?
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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #121 on: March 21, 2007, 08:02:45 pm »
You dont own the courtyard, so no.

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« Reply #122 on: March 21, 2007, 08:08:26 pm »
Woo circular argument.

End of discussion. Throw the padlock on it!
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« Reply #123 on: March 21, 2007, 08:10:52 pm »
Your discussion is pointless for the simple fact that it will have no outcome. It will change nothing, it will contribute with nothing, it will reach no conclusion. You're trying to discuss things that don't have a place to be discussed here, because they're meant to be discussed In Character. We could spend all day talking about what trespassing is, about who owns what, but it wouldn't change the fact that we will consider that buildings ours, and that we will protect our members. And unless a Game Master tells us to do otherwise, that is what will keep happening.

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I'm not ranting, I'm trying to discuss. If my reasoning is pointless then show why it is by reasoning against it rather than just having it called stupid by a moderator. I am in no way trying to smear peoples perspective of the DE in anyway, I'm trying to argue the point against people breaking IC laws and nobody doing anything about it where as they would in other cases if the guild was openly breaking the law just because it is not imediatly obvious because there are no gaurds doing what gaurds would do.

That person obviously didn't call any guards. The place is in a sort of alley, so I doubt any guards would be nearby. That person was alone, it has no witnesses. So your point is? If you're telling us that, in this isolated incident in a back alley there should be a guard, and our member should have been punished... Well.. I think that's a rant. It's what you would like to have happened. It didn't happen though.

EDIT: It's pretty easy to say logic things and wish for them to have any relevance. It's actually not so easy to make it so. Either you come up with an Out Of Character, plausible reason, which discussion will bring about something useful for any of us, or you hush and look around for other threads where your opinion might have any weight.
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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #124 on: March 21, 2007, 08:15:59 pm »
I'm saying that if the empire are stopping many people entering the area then the guards would be alerted, if they could be and you would be turfed out.

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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #125 on: March 21, 2007, 08:20:47 pm »
Go and alert the guards then!
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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #126 on: March 21, 2007, 08:22:53 pm »
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I'm saying that if the empire are stopping many people entering the area then the guards would be alerted, if they could be and you would be turfed out.

That hasn't happened. If it did I guess you would be right. Does that make you satisfied?
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« Reply #127 on: March 21, 2007, 08:24:44 pm »
Yes. But from what I've read up to this points towards that being the case in the fact that you are saying to have right to 'protect your land'. If it isnt then fair enough.

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« Reply #128 on: March 21, 2007, 08:27:39 pm »
Irrelevant. Just keep in mind that one single person was threatened by a member of ours for stepping into an area that is in front of our building. It was an isolated event, no one knows about it in character besides the person and the member.
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« Reply #129 on: March 21, 2007, 08:33:14 pm »
But you agree if others were to know it would be and is illegal what you are doing if indeed you are doing it at all, which i assumed you were from posts by your members. See something productive, one would hope.  ;)

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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #130 on: March 21, 2007, 08:36:48 pm »
Like Sangwa said .. pointless argument. It's a matter of opinions since nobody here has the authority to say whether renting an in-game place is legal or illegal.
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« Reply #131 on: March 21, 2007, 09:01:14 pm »
Like Sangwa said .. pointless argument. It's a matter of opinions since nobody here has the authority to say whether renting an in-game place is legal or illegal.

.... the Dark Empire didn't rent anything.  They just declared it to be theirs and they started roleplaying that way.  There is no system in game that allows players to rent land or buy houses.
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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #132 on: March 21, 2007, 09:09:21 pm »
Stop talking about things you don't know anything about, zanzibar. The Empire started using that courtyard as a meeting place. Never ever did they declare it as their own land. And you're making an invalid argument there, you're saying that what the Empire is doing is unrealistic because renting is not implemented and in the same line you talk about roleplay?
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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #133 on: March 21, 2007, 09:15:01 pm »
Stop talking about things you don't know anything about, zanzibar. The Empire started using that courtyard as a meeting place. Never ever did they declare it as their own land. And you're making an invalid argument there, you're saying that what the Empire is doing is unrealistic because renting is not implemented and in the same line you talk about roleplay?


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an area that is in front of our building.

someone said they owned it or at least had possesion

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Re: Imperial Ground ? - What the heck .....
« Reply #134 on: March 21, 2007, 09:21:10 pm »
Again, if we can't have buildings, so can't anyone else. It's not really our problem, it's a problem from part of the community. And if you want to discuss this, discuss it under another thread. Because this has nothing to do with it: It's named Imperial Ground not "Can People & Guilds Own Buildings?"

If we aren't renting it, than we assume that what you write on your own description is wrong too. Because there is no system that guarantees that you can have those clothes. Be consistent please. If you think we are godmodding, report to a Game Master. That's what intelligent, non-ranting people do. You people need to be told things three or four times before you get it. It becomes tiring, annoying and silly.

Narure, I don't care for what would and could happen. It has no interest currently.
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