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« Reply #135 on: March 21, 2007, 10:48:02 pm »
This whole thing reminds me of the black knight from Monty Python, who guarded a tiny useless bridge - "None shall pass!" >:(
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« Reply #136 on: March 21, 2007, 11:06:33 pm »
 :offtopic: but he was still a brave fighter after loosing arms and legs ...  :offtopic:

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« Reply #137 on: March 21, 2007, 11:27:08 pm »
Game masters cant do anything. You could run around saying your the leader of a dragon wearewolf machine gun cult and as long as you dont use leet speak they cant do anything because "there are no rules on how to RP" so telling us to talk to the GMs is void.

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« Reply #138 on: March 22, 2007, 12:10:16 am »
It's everything but void. If someone with authority tells me to do something, I will do so. If someone like you expects something from me, but have neither the authority or enough arguments to convince me, you will not get it. It's not my fault if you underestimate the Game Masters work. And here's not the place to discuss it.
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« Reply #139 on: March 22, 2007, 01:30:38 am »
Game masters cant do anything. You could run around saying your the leader of a dragon wearewolf machine gun cult and as long as you dont use leet speak they cant do anything because "there are no rules on how to RP" so telling us to talk to the GMs is void.

Not true.  You cannot disrupt the game for others.  Going OOC is also against the rules.


Stop talking about things you don't know anything about, zanzibar. The Empire started using that courtyard as a meeting place. Never ever did they declare it as their own land. And you're making an invalid argument there, you're saying that what the Empire is doing is unrealistic because renting is not implemented and in the same line you talk about roleplay?

You are completely out of line with that statement.  Setill had a "spot" around there as far back as when I was still in the guild, so why don't you stop talking about things you don't know anything about? :thumbdown: 

"Roleplay" does not mean "Do whatever you want".  There is NO system in game right now that allows you to rent land and buy buildings.  NONE.  So it's godmoding.  Wrong?  Not necessarily.  Problematic?  Yes.
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« Reply #140 on: March 22, 2007, 02:12:07 am »
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"Roleplay" does not mean "Do whatever you want".  There is NO system in game right now that allows you to rent land and buy buildings.  NONE.  So it's godmoding.  Wrong?  Not necessarily.  Problematic?  Yes.
There is no system in game right now that allows you to dress your character in the way you like. None. So it's godmodding when you make your descriptions like you do? There's no system that guarantees that you can hug a person in game. But you use /me to hug that person still. There's no systems for a lots of things and we still roleplay them. Some of them are godmodding, when they wouldn't be possible even if there was a system that allowed them.

The Empire, however, has the money to create plenty of guilds and to have its members well armed and trained. So I'd say we'd have also the power to rent a building. If a Game Master wants, we can pay monthly to him or her to make it look more realistic. We actually burn materials to make our uniforms, so expending money for roleplay reasons isn't anything strange to us.

If this is wrong or not, godmodding or not, problematic or not, it is not for us to care about in this thread. Keep in mind that we're not alone on this. If you want to truly discuss this, create a new thread without discriminating the Empire. There are other guilds that do the same.
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« Reply #141 on: March 22, 2007, 02:26:22 am »
I can't beleive this thread is still going...

They rent a building, so what. How it can be termed as godmodding is beyond me and Sangwa's right, just beacause it's not laid in law in the settings doesn't mean we can't RP it. The Empire would have the tria to rent a building and I see no problem with it. They haven't claimed to own the property they are merely paying to use the building for there discussions. As for saying it was Imperial Ground that goes with the RP. I'm sure my guild wouldn't like to be disturbed when holding important talks.

It's getting to the point where every RP is questioned to be against the settings or someone has a problem with it.

I'll quote Moogie I think it fits the thread nicely:

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« Reply #142 on: March 22, 2007, 02:28:03 am »
I'll quote Moogie I think it fits the thread nicely:

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A visit is nice and all, but I don't belong amongst all these new "hardcore" RP nutters. I'm from the Molecular Blue family, and damn proud of it! I miss those days of friendship and fun, nobody cared if you didn't follow strict RP "rules", the community wasn't so anal and aggressive.

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Long live the Molecular Blue family :D
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« Reply #143 on: March 22, 2007, 02:56:55 am »
Oh give me a break.  If anything, things are MORE relaxed now than they were when I started playing.  People are doing all sorts of stupid "interesting" things with their roleplays and they're going outside the settings constantly.

All I'm really saying is that if you godmode by claiming you own property or plots of land, you have NO right to freak out if others don't understand or don't agree!

@Sangwa:  Your logic is bogus:

There are a lot of actions with no system in place to support them.
People regularly do things which are not supported by the game mechanics.
Therefore, every single thing with no system in place to support it is ok to do.


That's just silly.  There's an infinite number of things and activities which aren't supported by the game mechanics and it's foolish to suggest that they're all ok to do just because some are ok to do.  The vast majority are NOT ok.
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« Reply #144 on: March 22, 2007, 03:01:48 am »
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All I'm really saying is that if you godmode by claiming you own property or plots of land, you have NO right to freak out if others don't understand or don't agree!


If people want to freak out do it IC and only if they actually come across the RP, I see no sense into dragging it on the forum and I can imagine people will use the knowledge learned in this thread as IC knowledge and will try and question the DE before there char even officially knows about it. This is just a guess but i bet it happens.
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« Reply #145 on: March 22, 2007, 03:08:51 am »
That was not my logic. My logic was the following:

There are a lot of actions with no system in place to support them.
People regularly do things which are not supported by the game mechanics.
Some things that are not supported by the game mechanics are considered godmodding when they wouldn't be possible even if the game mechanics supported them.
Therefore doing something that seems plausible shouldn't be considered godmodding.

I was actually saying that there were two ways of doing things which are not supported by the game mechanics: one is compatible with the setting, the other is not. Game Masters tell us what is or is not compatible. So Game Masters decide.

Now, how could you have missed that logic? In my previous post I did state all of this in a clear way. I gave you an example of things that are not supported by the game mechanics but are not considered godmodding either. I gave you the example why I thought mine shouldn't be considered godmodding. And I made it clear that you won't be the person telling me if it actually is allowed or not.
Simple logic. It's not bogus, it's not silly, it's actually easy to understand. In fact, it's intuitive once you read it once or twice. As should be the concept that this discussion does not apply for the Dark Empire only and therefore should not be discussed on a thread that discriminates the Empire as the single discussion object.

Maybe I'm way off when I try to write things considering people have a good level of comprehension. But when I do things in an overly explicative way, people think I'm using a patronizing tone. You guys are impossible.
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« Reply #146 on: March 22, 2007, 03:12:48 am »
Oh give me a break.  If anything, things are MORE relaxed now than they were when I started playing.  People are doing all sorts of stupid "interesting" things with their roleplays and they're going outside the settings constantly.

You don't remember MB then do you...

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It's quite obvious that this will either be concluded by A Game Master or just taken IC.  Either way, the forums aren't of much use anymore.

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« Reply #147 on: March 22, 2007, 04:20:18 am »
Everyone, go outside. Go read a book. Go save a whale. Just stop wasting your time and my time with this pointless bickering, because you're doing an amazing job at making our community look like a nutty sitcom.

There is no way I'm reopening this thread unless someone like Vengeance prompts me to. If you want to argue about something this inane, do it somewhere else.
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