Animal extinction

[Idoru]

Animals are becomming extinct because of us.

This is a fact, the rate of extinction is running at 10,000 times the natural rate that has been observed from fossil records. one third of amphibians are expected to become extinct in the coming years, 20 percent of insects are in the same situation. Ecological diversity is essential for the eco-system to function (as wikipedia would say, Citation needed ).

Anywho, what are we going to do about it? We could clone them, this would still lead to a deminished gene pool. A small gene pool basically means a species is doomed to die out. Maybe artificial breeding programs (artificial insemination and the like) This would bolster the gene pool but is difficult to accomplish at large scale and would be virtually impossible to do outside captivity.

This subject interests me alot and it worries me an equal amount. I would like to know what you think we can do, what we should do, what we cant and what we shouldnt do.

[Narure]

Stop cutting down trees. And just that, focus on that. Destroying their habitat. Taking away the thing that creates oxygen for them aswell as us which also adds to global warming (if the theory is correct) because carbon dioxide isnt being taken out of the atmoshpere. Animals being hunted to extinction is natural selection. Creating a world in which only humans can exist... and not even that after a while is pure everyingicide.

[Moogie]

Someone else watched "An Elephant's Guide to Sex" today, didn't they.

I loved those little sand cats. I can't believe people think them as vermin and kill them. Just look!!



I found that program very sad, because most of their attempts to enseminate the animals failed. Especially those rhinos... the last chances we'll ever have to save the species and it all fails every time, and what else can you do but watch them disappear forever? How many did they say were left of those rhinos in the wild... 5, 6 maybe? Six left in the entire world, and given the chance, someone would hunt down and kill them too. It is so shameful.

[bilbous]

Extinction is a fact of life more species became extinct before man came on the scene than since.

[Moogie]

Only because man is only a recent introduction to life on earth...

It IS still a fact that the extinction rate since man entered the scene has exceeded ten thousand times the 'natural' rate. That's terrifying.

[bilbous]

Perhaps we should become extinct then, I hear the Mil-Ind-Comp is working on making it happen.

[lordraleigh]

Environmental problems won't be solved completely as long as social problems and the brutality that permeates mankind continue to exist.

In other words, in a world where there are people who don't care even about human lives, how could extinction of animal life as a whole be prevented before the factors that create such monsters on society are eliminated(In my opinion no one is born "evil")?

Perhaps we should become extinct then, I hear the Mil-Ind-Comp is working on making it happen.

Perhaps the progress of the worldly average human consciousness and ethics is better than extinction.
And perhaps the social structures existing today share a significant part of the guilty for what happens.

[zanzibar]

Extinction is a fact of life more species became extinct before man came on the scene than since.

*sigh*

Animals are becomming extinct because of us. This is a fact, the rate of extinction is running at 10,000 times the natural rate that has been observed from fossil records.

Perhaps we should become extinct then...

The only logical answer.

Quit yer trollin'.

[lordraleigh]

Perhaps capitalism, neoliberalism and the big monopolistic corporations should be extinct.

Perhaps nationalism, which in excess leads to racism and xenophobia should be extinct.

Perhaps the alienating mass media should be extinct.

Perhaps the forces that drive people to consumerism should be extinct.

Perhaps the hypocrites that do most of the dirty work and put the blame on all of us instead of admitting their fault should be extinct.

[bilbous]

Well if man is causing all these problems perhaps he has no right to continue living. If you want to fix these problems first you will have to give society a makeover because there is no economic incentive to stop trashing the planet. I know I'll be dead long before the planet becomes uninhabitable and for most people and most certainly the ones who run things "I am the only one that matters." Can you change human nature?

[lordraleigh]

Human nature is not independent from the social structure where one lives.

A structure that encourages greed, egotism and ruthless competition will form different types of individuals as common from one which encourages cooperation and mutual aid.

[zanzibar]

Perhaps the hypocrites that do most of the dirty work and put the blame on all of us instead of admitting their fault should be extinct.

You mean politicians?

Well if man is causing all these problems perhaps he has no right to continue living.

And perhaps you're grossly oversimplifying things just to cause trouble.

[lordraleigh]

Perhaps the hypocrites that do most of the dirty work and put the blame on all of us instead of admitting their fault should be extinct.

You mean politicians?

Moguls and other people who could use their power to really change things, but which interests are against a greener form of economy and against a more just distribution of wealth. And add to that many corporations that just use this ecology talk as a marketing strategy to improve the image of their corporations to the public(AKA: Make a dump where no one can see and a preserve where everyone can see among similar), without any intention of really working towards it.

Ignoring things like the proposed Green Economics where ecological and social impacts aren't just "externalities" which may be ignored on a transaction.

[Idoru]

Someone else watched "An Elephant's Guide to Sex" today, didn't they.

I loved those little sand cats. I can't believe people think them as vermin and kill them. Just look!!



I found that program very sad, because most of their attempts to enseminate the animals failed. Especially those rhinos... the last chances we'll ever have to save the species and it all fails every time, and what else can you do but watch them disappear forever? How many did they say were left of those rhinos in the wild... 5, 6 maybe? Six left in the entire world, and given the chance, someone would hunt down and kill them too. It is so shameful.

Yah, It was watching that exact programme that prompted the post

And those kitties are sooooooo cute how could someone want them dead 

[bilbous]

I'm just wondering here, is it just animal extinctions are you against or plants as well? Any kind of life? what about bacteria and virii? I have no real opinion one way or the other as I spend most of my time trying not to become personally extinct (for now) and I admit I am playing the devils advocate. Do you think we should wipe out Measles, Smallpox and the Plague? They have a sort of life, don't they?