Making a false or Solicited complaint(do two wrongs make a right?)

[Staren]

First off this game is Incredible congrats on an incredable product.  That said i was playing the other day earning pp's camped on a rogue with another player i was chatting with on another rogue next to me.  A Kran walks in and without so much as a word starts standing on my charachter to try to blind me from being able to acquire the target.  This made me laugh becuase i use the target command rather than my mouse to attack a target.  After about 20 min of this I asked the Kran if he would like to go every other being that he was rude enough not to ask to get in on the Kill or to group up.  He replied you don't own the dam thing you little Pr..K. I smiled to myself and said ok if that's the way you want it you must not have read the FAQ on being a fare player about asking a person that was doing something first to join in or if they meanining you could have a go.  If you hadn't been so rude i prob. would have let you go every other.  His reply listen you Dil_o (adj for Battery opperated Boyfriend) ( and some other key phrases and adj's he used i don't care to repeat) I don't need your permission to fight something. **Now please keep in mind i was In brackets [ [ [   ] ] ] the entire time he was just talking OOC and did not care for the other's around him.  I have always tried to be IC when talking to people have never gone after anyone for a situation that seems unfair but i digress after being insulted for 30 min i lashed out at him.  I know now that all i have to do is type /report and the entire conversation will be reported but i did not know that at the time.  After i left because i felt bad about dampening the day of anyone else around i told him that i was going to report his charachter to the Plane shift people and i guess he beat me to it in my Tell screen the good people told me i had been in violation of the rules and regs and that a demerret of some sort would be put on my account.  I conferred with some of my Guild members one who has been on PS i gues since the beginning and he said he would look into it and that i should maybee come on to here as you may be able to retrieve the conversation logs to see that i was provocked over and over and over again and did not lash out for over 40 minutes.  After i left this person then created multiple accounts  (all that i wrote down and will furnish appon request) and harrassed me further for another Hour until it became utterlly impossible for me to enjoy my time In PS.  I swear i am a good person and help all around me get Acquainted with the game to the best of my abbillities because that's how i got acclimated to the game,by someone helping me. If i am at fault please let the Demerit stand but how many insults should one take especially when they start insulting you, your family,etc.. Any informaiton on this would be greatly appreciated and i thank you in advance for any help or light you can shed on this subject.

Much thanks
Sincerelly
Mike C i.e. IC Staren (Klyros)

[Idoru]

this sounds like a very sad situation where you were not to blame. The problem is that neither of you have proof so its your word against his. Unfortunatly people are more likely to believe the 1st complainant. I also fear that this post may, possibly, contravene a rule about discussing GM sanction to players on the forums. The appropriate way to handle it would be by contacting the GM in question via PM and explaining the situation.

Also the chat logs are not saved untill you type /report (although they do record text already spoken for 5 mins I think)

The other player was technically right that they dont have to ask to join in attacking a mob. Its just polite to ask 1st and this person sounds far from polite.

Im sory you experienced this

[EDIT]

@Thomphoenix: lol, I was going to gracefully ignore that typo because if you quote it then you are doubling the work for our poor Karyuu

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@Caarrie: dammit, too many phoenix's around this place lol

[ThomPhoenix]

to the Plane shift people

This ought to be fixed
And it has been.

But yes, unfortunately for you, you should've just reported him. You didn't know that but you couldn't asked for advice in the most right tab of the chat window called "Help".

[Caarrie]

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@Josephoenix: lol, I was going to gracefully ignore that typo because if you quote it then you are doubling the work for our poor Karyuu

When did jose reply to this post? I see thom did but no jose.

[Staren]

  Very sorry about the typo i should have previewed before posting.

*edit*

Again no disrespect intended.  God as my witness i meant no harm and fixed it the momment there was a reply.  I know it was irresponsible of me not to preview but besides being dislexic I'm ussualy (besides spelling and grammer lol) a well spoken individual i just type and spell Fanetically. Again please accept my appollogies.

Sincerelly
Mike C (Staren)

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Ohh sorry again forgot to answer or respond to what was said.  I did hit the help button it said something to the extent that there are no GM's present at this time use the Shout function to ask in open and that people will understand this method. At current with my desktop comp. i can not multi platform or i would have come right to this site while i was on playing in PS.  Was i supposed to in open say pardon me everyone i've got a real Donkey on my hands over here anyone know what to do with him..I don't mean to make light of it and it was my ignorance to the "reporting ways"  that got me in to trouble by lowering myself to his level but again, I'm usually a very calm and collective person though i hate to see anyone get bullied or harrassed.  As for where i got my information about the do's and don'ts of the game and the part where i said about being a propper or "nice" R-p'er. That's from the Faq. Try to find another monster, if there is not one availlable, ask if you can join in.  I even asked him if he wanted to join in, after i had thought to make my point, and was very pollite about it.  In my oppinion he was unruelly from the beginning and under one name or another i'm sure you will get many more complaints about this player..I'm sure of it. I see there is nothing that can be done here to rectify this situation. Justice in my oppinion has not been served and unfortunatelly although maybee alittle on the melodramatic side i feel violated in this situation having no resoloution.  Thank you all anyhow.

[ Please avoid making one post right after the other in the same thread. Just "Modify" your first post to add more information. --Karyuu ]

[Karyuu]

Hiya Staren!

If you can access IRC, try hopping into the #planeshift-gmtalk channel on Freenode to speak with our GMs, and offer more information than you can here (like names). Or if IRC is not an option, you can send a Private Message with full details to Kerol, who is our GM Team Leader. (You'll have to reach 10 posts here to send PMs, but that shouldn't be a problem for you.)

[zanzibar]

Hi Staren.

I'm like you.  My first reaction in most instances is to engage the other person in discussion and to be polite about it.  And just like you, it often creates more trouble than good.  It's been a while since I've experienced anything as bad as what just happened to you though!

Once I was at a spawn and a guy was kill stealing from me using arrow.  I called a GM.  Noxide came and told the guy to stop doing it.  The guy said ok, but started doing it once Noxide left.  He got warned again, and he agreed to stop.  And he started doing it again as soon as Noxide left!  So he had his character moved far, far away.  He then made a nasty petition about me.  He then signed on with three different characters and made three more petitions about me.  Nice, eh?

IRC isn't much help because there's no guarantee that a GM will be around.  They're just volounteers.  All you can really do is /report people and make petitions about them, and use your /ignore list as well.  Even if you do get the attention of a GM, it usually takes way more time than it's worth to explain everything.  The GM might not see things your way anyway, and the jerk might just make a new character or stop playing so it doesn't even accomplish anything.  Things can be pretty extreme sometimes.  I once alerted a GM to something some people were doing to me.  The GM I ended up with said that they werent' doing anything wrong and he closed the petition.  I /reported them, and the very first person who looked at the /reports decided to ban the guilty party.  That's how extreme things can get.  One GM will look at something and dismiss it, while another GM will look at something and end up banning people.

Adding people to your /ignore list doesn't really help because they could be saying things to other people or annoying you in other ways.

I'm not sure where I was going with that.  Basically, crap happens and there isn't really any way to avoid it.  All you can do is try to not let it affect you too much.

[Ralleyon]

I'm not sure where I was going with that.  Basically, crap happens and there isn't really any way to avoid it.  All you can do is try to not let it affect you too much.

One of the best advices I have seen so far.