[Guild] The Decayers of Light

[Duraza]

Now I get what your saying.  Ok let me explain this the right way, sorry for the confusion  .  See theres a reason why I made the references to free and enslaved members.  Not everyone who joins us is going to be enslaved.  Actually how it works is that specific people are going to be enslaved to unleash their dark sides.  However thats because they are servants.    They don't join the guild of their free will.  They decide whether they want to join OOC but IC their character is being put into a forced enslavement.  Those who join us of free will are those we "enlighten" by giving them things like power and advancing their dark arts.  We accept we corrupt those people because we corrupt their minds inorder to enslave them.  We purposely awaken their dark dreams and such so they forget the person they once were.  Instead they become our servants but really they are nothing more but servants each rank for them just telling you how twisted they have become because of their servitude.  Actual members who join of free will (even good guys who wish to join our cause) help us fufill a purpose hidden from the city people (which is why I don't make many references to it).  Everything about us corrupting Yliakum is only applied to our enemies (and what we want to be seen as inorder to keep our enemies from knowing are true purpose).  We don't feel ourselves as evil or corrupted but we do corrupt our enemies inorder for them to join our side as servants.  Not as if they actually understood our purposes.  Get what I mean now or still not clear?   

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As for the reason we call it "The Touch of Evil" its because of more or less a name it already had before the organization started using it.  When Duraza used it that was what it was called when he learned it (also refered to hand of darkness because your hand is surrounded by dark energy).  We keep the name just for the fact that its what the teqnique is called. 

[Sangwa]

I get what you mean. But I am still not sure if you get what I mean. And what I mean isn't something better than what you have in mind. It's just different and I am merely trying to see if you like it.

There are guilds that, in my opinion, appeal to a very vulgar way of interpreting evil. Vulgar and boring. This way is when your character assumes he is evil, works always on an evil basis and sees the corruption, twisting and pain of others as something nice. But without any visible reason. I'll try to use examples. I'll lean a bit on your guild's topic, I hope you don't mind. It won't have much to do it, besides the fact that is has to do with magic.

Not so original way: A group of Dark Way mages sees global corruption as the only way to set a world of true pleasures (this motive is usually left out. People don't usually mind explaining why they want to corrupt. Unfortunately). They use their magic and intellect to bring people to their ranks, forcing them into servitude when necessary. Those that join usually become compliant, either for fear of the repercussions or because they come to enjoy powers. They spread terror.

This is often the approach taken. Corrupting as the objective, everything else comes as a bonus. It may sound nice, but it's really something vulgar. It points out to a certain light mindedness of the leaders who are either war hungry, bored or insane. Members enjoy being called evil, they revel in the hatred shown in the expressions of those that surround them.


An original way would be like the following example: A guild of mages that considers the Dark Way and Red Way the most pure forms of energy available. But they have no patience for constructing complex hierarchies and rule sets and such. No, they're too busy with becoming powerful and studying deeper into their arts. They still need people though, so they tempt them with the power they have to offer. Those who become ambitious stay and slowly drift away to unsocial behavior as they're drawn to themselves and to power. Those who want to leave afterwards become intimidated. Kept as slaves and obeying because they fear for they lives, it's clear that they'll be used as guinea pigs if they voice their lack of motivation.

As you see this way still makes them look evil. But they're focused on something. Their acts have a justification: they seek more power. Corruption, fear, evil... all that comes as a bonus. And they don't care for it. They see themselves superior, impervious to the sight and opinions of the lesser.


As you see one is not better than the other. That's what I tried to make clear, though my favoritism is obvious. But the last approach is less taken, where the first is just too common.

[Duraza]

Thanks for that clear explanation.  I too prefer the second one and its more so what I'm trying to bring about in my guild.  I see what your saying though.  By my saying that I am "corrupting" people it leaves the thought that I and my guild would fall under the first category.  Evil with no true purpose.  From what you say both categories do the same thing but one does it with a purpose and feels itself right in doing it, not evil or wrong.  Now this is what I'm trying to do (have not completely got it to a straight forward plan but its my thought).  When I was trying to plan this guild I noticed that many guilds who are considered "evil" by the public (like thieves guilds) are secret or "underground."  It makes sense because it keeps people from easily finding out the specific guilds plans and such, keeping them from always being attacked by the public.  My guild however will be a very public evil but I wanted to do it in a way that even though we are public its hard to easily infiltrate it with things like guild spies etc (not saying there are actually any but its possible rp).  So I thought what if the guild was to be shown as if it was full of people who were "just evil to be evil" with no real purpose.  This would hide our true purposes and help to truely keep us secret even though we are public.  So I made the Dark Hand Organization to help with that.  See if you look at it as seperate guilds you only see people who want to be evil for the sake of being evil, no goal in sight.  However you have to look at it in terms of being part of an Organization.  The Organization claims its purpose to corrupt all those who are good, still making it seem as if the first method you described is true.  But there are those in the Organization (higher up trusted members) who know the real purpose of the organization.  See you can be a high ranking member of the guild but not of the Organization or vice versa.  High rank Organization members are the ones who act as evil with purpose.  Low rank Organization members would act as evil for the sake of being evil.  And to make sure the public thinks we all are like this we do not openly reveal our purpose but act as if we just are evil for the sake of being evil.  I try to hint this on but I don't say it because that ruins the fun sometimes.  I'm not trying to say that there is something wrong with either way either but I think the way I set this guild up works for both ways.  Like I said its not completely worked out which is another reason I didn't mention it yet but thats the intention.   

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By your concern I can see that it works

[Sangwa]

Well, that sounds like a plan. I can see some problems in it, but I might as well not mention them, since they're of an IC nature. *evil laughter*

[Duraza]

Nice.  Now I have to worry about someone trying to defeat me.

Anyways though I wanted to say the guild is officially made ingame and to join contact Duraza.  If you are looking for information OOC contact is ok but if your looking to join IC contact is prefered.  Even an IC tell as long as you make it convincing (like saying you sent your groffel with a message, etc.).  Not accepting any OOC invites and anyone in the guild OOCly will be booted. 

[Sangwa]

Nice.  Now I have to worry about someone trying to defeat me.

Anyways though I wanted to say the guild is officially made ingame and to join contact Duraza.  If you are looking for information OOC contact is ok but if your looking to join IC contact is prefered.  Even an IC tell as long as you make it convincing (like saying you sent your groffel with a message, etc.).  Not accepting any OOC invites and anyone in the guild OOCly will be booted. 

Hehe, that's not what I meant. Just that it will have to be Sangwa giving you that information.

Anyone in the guild OOCly will be booted? I don't understand this very well.

[Duraza]

As in people who enter the guild from an OOC invite.  This goes more to members of the guild with the power to invite not to do any mass recruiting, or put someone in the guild because they were intrested in it.  Things like that.  People who join have to first make IC contact and express their intrest and will be accepted based on some other things.  If someone was to invite a person in the guild just because they know the person ooc or because its an alt it wont be accepted.  If its an alt then you still have to rp your way in is my only point.  OOC members would just make things confusing. 

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By the way where do you get one of those special guild banners and things like that? I have no idea but see lots of guilds with their own custom ones. 

[Sangwa]

Usually one member of the guild does them. Jekkar does ours. And we appreciate it very much.

I think there was a thread at the Fan Art forum where a person offered to do banners though...

About the OOC invite things, having a trial rank/period will help to make sure those to be invited have enough in character contact to be accepted.

[Duraza]

Now to the addition of the website a fourms page was made for guild/organization members.  Not a lot of information on it yet for fourm guest but soon there will be and the website is
http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Dark_Hand/

[Duraza]

Duraza alone in Hydlaa's plaza. Suddenly Lanele speaks from behind him

"You've been gone a long time," she says.

"Yes I had work to do. Many things that I discovered on my trip away."

"I tried to keep the guild alive but by myself it was usless."

"I noticed. I haven't seen any them for a long time. I'm actually surprised to see you. I expected all of you to have left instead of wait for my return."

"Maybe we should start again? Rebuild it all?"

Duraza laughs "That would take too long. I doubt I even have enough life in me."

"Then pick another to take your place? Start to rebuild and then allow those who join to carry on for you."

Duraza thinks for a while before nodding in agreement, "I might as well not let my goal die with me. I already have an apprentice. I suppose when he is ready he will take my place. Till then its time to start the Decay."

[Were back..... The guild is already ingame and while there is only a few members the guild is open for recruitment. Since I am putting my efforts into another guild at the moment as well someone else will be taking Duraza's place as head as time passes on. For now though I'm still leading.

I made some ajustments to the guild (which can be viewed in the first post). Fixes on the rankings and guild purpose a little. Also I've completely removed the enslavement aspect of this guild (because many felt it too powerful, including myself) and replaced it with a dark mage theme if you hadn't noticed 

We are mainly recruiting people who want to be dark mages, as we will teach you the ropes, but warriors are allowed. It just takes longer for you to be accepted and get anywhere if your not intrested in magic.

I will be changing the website to add the new information but you can still view it as well as go to the fourms. The non-members area is free for anyone to post there expressing any issues, questions, or wantings to join.

I don't like the word evil being used by evil people.

Yeah and that right there has finally been changed... ]