Name change policy complaint.

[Bartholin]

I am sorry to complain about a game i play so often but i thing it needs to be said, if only for the slight, remote, near impossible chance that i will affect something in a positive manner.

My complaint...
I am not allowed to have my name changed.

Reason Givin by gm.
"Its not allowed, only the sir name can be changed when divorced"

Reason for wanting said name change.
My char. Bartholin has been plagued by harrasment by well.. "those peoples" (ooc like) and thus his name (my name) has been ruined, aka im now considered a Theft, vandle, rapist, outlaw, hethen... the list goes on. Why you may ask i am considered these? Players find it funny to seek revenge when they dont get 1k tra for a dagger or 2m tria on shield, or allowed to kill me in a duel or allowed the challenge me when im busy in an rp. Basic childish Bull&^$*.

I asked a gm (who i spose i wont name) told me that i could INFACT have a name change as long as it suited rp rules (or something like that), after i did a huge rp envolving my wife being kidnapped and resueded and me being killed off (allowed for reasons stated above) I was then told that i can not infact change my name even for the stated reasons. It being with in rp relms, (Bartholin dieing er.. killed) Would it not be kosher to have it be changed?

I relize that gms are busy, and that it being able to have your name changed when ever you want would be very BAD idea for rp and revenge type reasons. However, i think i have ample reason to have my name changed. I do not beleave that i should have to delete my account i worked hard on and make another one, just becuase i didnt let someone kill me, or i didnt pay an extra 5k on an item werth only 100 tria.

I do not have irc, so i can not contact gms online, i know gm rulings are not wished to be posted, however, this post should be looked into, reviewed, and with some luck a name change policy should arrive out of it. I ran a search and found nothing sim. to my case, though admittled i did not look at every page. I could not find a name CHANGE policy, but only the naming policy, which just to move my name change further along states "Dont name your charecter after anything that might be found offensive" (something along the lines of that) and as such i did find something for Bartholin. just run a search in google for Bartholin (or Bartholin cyst) Also Thomas Bartholin is a real person and I am named after him . If a gm is willing to change my name for me, plz contact me for i do have a name already lined up, or talk to me ingame.

Please dont hate me i just hate being chased after cuz someone said i said/did something i didnt do. (Its hard to report a group of ppl when they use alts and noone tells you who told them) /rant,post

[Gharan]

Reason for wanting said name change.
My char. Bartholin has been plagued by harrasment by well.. "those peoples" (ooc like) and thus his name (my name) has been ruined, aka im now considered a Theft, vandle, rapist, outlaw, hethen... the list goes on. Why you may ask i am considered these? Players find it funny to seek revenge when they dont get 1k tra for a dagger or 2m tria on shield, or allowed to kill me in a duel or allowed the challenge me when im busy in an rp. Basic childish Bull&^$*.

If it's just this reason then there is no point, your name change would still appear on there buddy list. It would change from Bartholin to whatever you changed it to so they would know who you were anyway.

[Bartholin]

If it's just this reason then there is no point, your name change would still appear on there buddy list. It would change from Bartholin to whatever you changed it to so they would know who you were anyway.

I predicted that as well, however, a slim chance is that a) they didnt buddy me or b) they see the new name and have no clue who it is thus delete it.

Im also dead atm in game (killed of in the rp stated in first post)

[zanzibar]

Renaming your character won't help because they'll see the change if they have you on their buddy list.  I'm afraid that the only real solution to avoid jerks like that is to make a brand new character, but that sucks for a hundred different reasons.

You probably won't like this, but the best thing you can do is to ignore the jerks.  It's really all you can do in the end.  The people who really know you will see their lies for what they are.

It will be hard because such individuals tend to be very vicious and manipulative, often working by getting large numbers of people involved.  The saving grace is that the people they manipulate are almost always new players hoping to make "friends" and better their "reputation", so they're very fickle and extremely temporary in the grand scheme of things.  They'll pretend to believe pretty much anything if they think there's something to gain by it.  It's quite pathetic.  It's still a major nuisance though, and if you're a sensitive individual then it's that much worse.  Perhaps the GMs should have a meeting to discuss how to fight cyber bullying such as this?

This is something I could rant on for a while but I'll leave it at that until other people start posting.

[Gharan]

I tried doing that before, a name change did nothing. People tend to know who is on there buddy.

[Bartholin]

This is something I could rant on for a while but I'll leave it at that until other people start posting.

I read a post by you about the same sorta thing. A group messed with ya for ooc reasons. used alts, and that such. Like i said above though, even if they find me again, it would have smaller impact since i would have moved on to a new group of buds. I have only talked to my buds thru an alt (name with held*) but for the most part Bartholin is MIA within ps. "Having been missing since sunday"

[Gharan]

Zanzi is right, best you can do is just ignore them. Name change won't solve it and I wouldn't recommend deleting your character. The minute you do someone will take the name. I've had it happen to me 3 times.

[Bartholin]

Zanzi is right, best you can do is just ignore them. Name change won't solve it and I wouldn't recommend deleting your character. The minute you do someone will take the name. I've had it happen to me 3 times.

let them have it and its hard to ignore a group you dont know thier names to. I refuse to delete my account that i worked forever for. I refuse to just stand around and let the gms allow such things. I was TOLD to delete my char to get a new name. Even though a gm can change my name in two shakes or less if you give them a name you want to change to (as i did). I cant really just go back to playing my account atm, as rp wise i am dead from a battle protecting my wife. Ask all my old comrades, i have already told it to them, and cut off all contact with them thru Bartholin ooc and ic. I refuse to be forced to pay 2k for 1 iron ore "Cuz you killed my father", or "Raped my friends, brother's, sisters's, aunt's dog" or w/e they have going. I know that the name change is refreshed on the buddy lists, but its a chance im willing to take if only to stay ic. Though if all else fails i spose i can cook up a rp type thing where i am reborn or something. But a name change would be nice to stay ic. I dont want it JUST becuese a small group of *&^%ers wants to have a kick, or JUST cuz i was killed in an rp. I want it to have a complete new start ic wise and even ooc wise w/o having to log in 200 more hrs of time i dont really have to spend these days.

[Gharan]

See, a GM would look at it like this... (i think)

1) The name change wouldn't help as they would still know who you are.
2) Wanting a name change because Bartholin is dead is something they'd never do

I want it to have a complete new start ic wise and even ooc wise w/o having to log in 200 more hrs of time i dont really have to spend these days.

If you want a new start a GM would ask you to start a new character. You will lose alot of training but GM's can't change names for that reason. I suggest you find an RP reason for your name change and it will most likely be given. I changed a name i'd held for nearly a year and the GM was happy to do it but I had good reasons. I'm not saying that you don't have reasons, but I don't see any that would make a GM want to change it. They'd most likely suggest a new char. I could be wrong though... I suggest you speak to a GM in-game, this isn't the place for it.

[Bartholin]

See, a GM would look at it like this... (i think)

1) The name change wouldn't help as they would still know who you are.
2) Wanting a name change because Bartholin is dead is something they'd never do

I want it to have a complete new start ic wise and even ooc wise w/o having to log in 200 more hrs of time i dont really have to spend these days.

If you want a new start a GM would ask you to start a new character. You will lose alot of training but GM's can't change names for that reason. I suggest you find an RP reason for your name change and it will most likely be given. I changed a name i'd held for nearly a year and the GM was happy to do it but I had good reasons. I'm not saying that you don't have reasons, but I don't see any that would make a GM want to change it. They'd most likely suggest a new char. I could be wrong though... I suggest you speak to a GM in-game, this isn't the place for it.

-_-'' thats the complaint, I have 3 reasons.
1) I am dead ic from an RP
2) Want due to Harrassment
3) Want a fresh start completly, new friends, new enemies so on w/o losing my stats

I should NOT have to start over from scratch just cuz a band got together and F*&^ed my good name up.
I should beable to have my name changed due to the RP reason alone, having already asked a gm and him saying "Yes you can infact change your name, but i can not due it, talk to a higher up"
This does belong here since it is infact a complaint against not only the name change policy but anything else mentioned.

Basicly if ANYTHING is dont with this thread, a list of reasons, or a set of guildlines should be set up for having your name changed. I know that its not smart to allow a name change to any player for any reason, however, i have played PS for almost 1 year using only my one char. I asked a gm, and he said it was good reasons.

If a policy is set up for this, a penelty should be intrduced along with a good reason being needed. Such as you lose all your money, or duel points, or pp, or something along the lines of that. I didnt make this thread to complain about the gms rulling but to understand the gms logice, to complain about the name change policy, and to hopfull spur inprovement in the game.

[Gharan]

Well if the GM said your name would be changed then what exactly is the problem?

1) I am dead ic from an RP
2) Want due to Harrassment
3) Want a fresh start completly, new friends, new enemies so on w/o losing my stats

Number 1 and 3 are not good reasons, a GM would tell you to go to character creation. Reason 2 is but a GM would probably ask you there names and tell you to report them or he/she would look in on them. Also a name change for harassment never works and never will unless name changes stop showing on buddy list.

Why 2 threads on basically the ssame thing? 

[Bartholin]

Why 2 threads on basically the ssame thing? 

They are close, about name policy. This one about Chainging names.. other about GMs allowing bad names cuz they are older then 1 hr ingame. so similer but differnt in own rights.

As for 2. I couldnt name then since how can you prove whos alts are whos, who really thinks you did something after being told you did it by the person/s / group? But if oyu look at prev. posts you can see that im not BSing about harrasment, as i was having this crap as far back as the tria, sw disaster day.

[Gharan]

Well like i've said deletion is not the option and name changes are just a no-go for harassment cases as they would know who you were. You could say they might not see the name change but they would. If it truly bothers you then speak to the GM team and give them the names of those involved, they'll gladly help you in such a case as harassment. For harassment they will grant you your name change i'm almost certain about that but it won't help. You've got two options the way I see it. New char or stick with Bartholin and let the GM's help with your problem. If they see harassment is going on it will be dealt with.

[Bartholin]

Well like i've said deletion is not the option and name changes are just a no-go for harassment cases as they would know who you were. You could say they might not see the name change but they would. If it truly bothers you then speak to the GM team and give them the names of those involved, they'll gladly help you in such a case as harassment. For harassment they will grant you your name change i'm almost certain about that but it won't help. You've got two options the way I see it. New char or stick with Bartholin and let the GM's help with your problem. If they see harassment is going on it will be dealt with.

I couldnt name then since how can you prove whos alts are whos, who really thinks you did something after being told you did it by the person/s / group?

I fear we are going around in circles. I will wait a few days and see if a gm will contact me about this matter. I talked to a gm about harrasment issues sometime ago, and as such nothing has happend about it, the gm told me that harrasment and name sluanderings/ers are banned. Though again nothing to little has happened thus far. So i can play that waiting game i spose.

[Gharan]

Well, I hope it works out for you... I was just trying to explain why a name change would never solve anything and that either a new char or "the waiting game" were your only choices.

Seriously though whoever is harassing you needs to grow-up...