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Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« on: April 13, 2007, 05:12:54 am »
I happen to name a few bad player names almost everytime i log on, however i notice that the names giving around arnt that friendly with the naming polcy. Naming polcy stats something along the lines of "Your name can not be composed of words or verbs, adjectives" Names such as Razorclaw, Goldsmith, and countless others are infact against namming policy. Though i do not know about Razorclaw being renamed to that i know for sure that Goldsmith was. Are last names exsempt from the rules then? And while im on the subject, why is it that older players who managed to sneak by with a name like Funny Shorts are allowed to keep thier names becuase they managed to run past you gms? Surly this shouldnt be alloud. A bad name should be changed reguardless of amount of time spent ingame. I dont agree with this policy of allowing those who sneaked past the gms long enough to be rewarded with keeping thier names intact even though i am SURE that a person would not have such a name, or even a name such as Tibey Tibey or Mot Mot (same first and last name). A complete overhual is seems is needed of the naming policy. I have since stopped reporting bad names since half of them have "been playing for awhile now" - Nameless gm/s.
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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2007, 05:18:41 am »
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Mot Mot

You don't even want to know what that word is slang for where I am from.  ;D

Yes Bartholin there's one or two older players with names that might warrant a change but did you ever consider that in all the time they've played no-one has complained of the name because in reality they probably don't know that it was so-and-so from 718 BC.

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 05:23:10 am »
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Mot Mot

You don't even want to know what that word is slang for where I am from.  ;D

Yes Bartholin there's one or two older players with names that might warrant a change but did you ever consider that in all the time they've played no-one has complained of the name because in reality they probably don't know that it was so-and-so from 718 BC.

however, thier name does infact violate naming policy and when i saw them I complained, reason for not being changed? "Logging more then 1hr on server" basicly name a char "shit brains" and chill out in the dungeon for a day, gms let ya keep it. tisk tisk. *name wouldnt be allowed to keep though it is an extreme example of what happens*
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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 05:33:32 am »
I'm struggling to think of who you might mean when you say older players... Most of the ones I know are within the naming policy. Motmot is not within the policy to me but it's only because it's used nastily were I am from, i'm sure it's just a nonsense word to most. My name was changed within 3 days of playin'. I think it was something stupid like Huntington  ;D. Thankyou whoever changed my name, Huntington is not the best of names.

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 05:43:01 am »
I'm struggling to think of who you might mean when you say older players... Most of the ones I know are within the naming policy. Motmot is not within the policy to me but it's only because it's used nastily were I am from, i'm sure it's just a nonsense word to most. My name was changed within 3 days of playin'. I think it was something stupid like Huntington  ;D. Thankyou whoever changed my name, Huntington is not the best of names.

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 06:03:15 am »
Not true... I've seen a few names changed after they have been around for a week or two. The most recent was a guy who'd played for months and posted wanting to know why. He wouldn't post his name though so i'll never know if it indeed needed changing for breaking the policy and I believe he posted a farewell a few days later after it wasn't changed back.

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2007, 06:05:13 am »
Olderplayers = "Any player having logged a total or excess of 1 hr on the server in game." - Nameless GM.

We actually work to 100 hours logged not 1 on the basis that if no one has complained with in that timescale  then no one is upset by it, however offensive or names which are outside the guidelines will still be changed regardless of time logged.
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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2007, 06:07:41 am »
Not true... I've seen a few names changed after they have been around for a week or two. The most recent was a guy who'd played for months and posted wanting to know why. He wouldn't post his name though so i'll never know if it indeed needed changing for breaking the policy and I believe he posted a farewell a few days later after it wasn't changed back.

I saw that :D, but again, i do not know the reasons as to why the gms "limit" changing them. I find it wrong and thus i post about it :D i beleave if a person plays for idk.. 3 months.. the lower lvs can not change that players name, and would have to wait for a higher up to look into it, which then they forget, so say to them selfs "WHy bother with it?" idk. Just something to look into.
 
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Olderplayers = "Any player having logged a total or excess of 1 hr on the server in game." - Nameless GM.

We actually work to 100 hours logged not 1 on the basis that if no one has complained with in that timescale  then no one is upset by it, however offensive or names which are outside the guidelines will still be changed regardless of time logged.
Any ambiguous names are discussed between gms before action is taken.

Ah, thank you. 1hr was just a extreme guess :) I do beleave that gms arnt all bad :) though some are rather sour to players, others quite plesent, those being hard not to want to talk to about other non related gm matters :) But yes, thanks for a gm's input.

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2007, 06:12:31 am »
Hmm, I still can't get my head round the complaint...

From what i've seen Planeshift has a great naming policy and the most ridiculous of names that would be accepted into many MMORPG's are not readily accepted here. You do not walk around seeing lots of offensive or plain ridiculous names and any that are reported to GM's are dealt with.

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2007, 06:17:22 am »
Last names are indeed exempt from the "word combinations" rule, as they are more likely to be ornate and tribal-like in their sounding. Our naming policy is extremely similar to that from any other MMORPG. And in fact we enforce it stronger than anywhere I've seen.
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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2007, 05:43:08 pm »
Neither Razorclaw (including razor and claw) nor Goldsmith (including gold and smith) are verbs or adjectives. Furthermore, if Razorclaw would violate the naming policy, it would have for years already (in case of Verrliit), and you would be the first who realised that...

And in medieval times, it was quite usual to have a name related to a job, or unique attributes.

The reasons for such a strict policy are only few: Avoid conflicts with trademarked or famous names, avoid blatant nonsense and offense.

And it does not prevent some people from playing with the meaning... for example, I enjoyed the meaning of "Solita Desolo" a lot, and it is still a valid name.

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2007, 11:37:36 pm »
"Your name can not be composed of words or verbs, adjectives"

Are last names exempt from the rules then?

I would assume that last names are exempt in some cases but not all (obviously, if the last name is vulgar, that's a problem)--in medieval times, you would go to John Smith to put shoes on your horse, make your tools, and the like:  last names were often job titles.  In that case, a last name being a description of what someone does, perhaps including a verb and noun, such as my own "Windfollower" (one who follows the wind, a name with a bit of a story behind it that I won't bother to type out).

Neither Razorclaw (including razor and claw) nor Goldsmith (including gold and smith) are verbs or adjectives.

In Razorclaw, unless you're talking about the device used to shave one's face, razor is an adjective meaning "sharp".  Other then that, valid point.  *knows he is nitpicking, promises not to do it again*

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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2007, 08:37:51 am »

I would assume that last names are exempt in some cases but not all (obviously, if the last name is vulgar, that's a problem)--in medieval times, you would go to John Smith to put shoes on your horse, make your tools, and the like:  last names were often job titles.  In that case, a last name being a description of what someone does, perhaps including a verb and noun, such as my own "Windfollower" (one who follows the wind, a name with a bit of a story behind it that I won't bother to type out).


Smith is a actual last name though. :) what about John Blacksmith? And then i spose i could have a name of Phil Killer then? its a job title.. being a killer. (i think) in medieval times people used job titles but only at thier job/ work. Thier wife wasnt called Marry Blacksmith but w.e her real last name was. But i spose some things must be giving le way when in a game ;)
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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2007, 08:58:36 am »
We're not dropping all name rules for last names, just the word combinations once. Your last name still cannot be a title.

Acceptable: Goldfeather, Leafeye, Doomthunder, Bloodscream, Warfang, Winterhand.
Unacceptable: Thief, Sungod, Annihilator, Necromancer, Madman, Immortal.

If it's an actual job/trade description rather than something more "poetic" sounding, let's say, better to avoid it - even if that was commonplace in the medieval era on Earth.
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Re: Name changes by gm being against Naming policy
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2007, 07:49:01 pm »
One of my earlier friends in PlaneShift was "Rolf Blacksmith" - there was no reason to rename him...

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