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RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« on: April 27, 2007, 01:38:02 am »
Godmodding is a major problem. Countless threads have named it as one of the most annoying thing that people can do to eachother in this roleplaying game. Now most annoying might be a bit of an overkill but it's the most annoying thing for sure that happens a lot.

Now I have been wondering should we report obvious RPs? Would this have any use? question one ofcourse would be what the GMs would do with them. Do they have any rules on godmodding? Should they have them?

Personally I feel we shouldn't have to call in GMs everytime someone has some questionable RP, but I do feel that godmodding should be something that GMs should take actions against if people keep doing it after several warnings. Specially if there is no question that it's godmodding and/or against the setting as I have seen often.

Why do you ask? Just ignore that person? Thats easier said then done. Becuase if you ignore the person you need to ignore his RP. If you ignore his RP you also have to ignore the people when they are RPing with that person. Now if I walk in and those people are already RPing with that person I might not like it, but its tolerable, but I personally hate that I would have to leave or refuse to respon to that person when he walks in to a group I'm RPing with, becuase that other person keeps godmodding and is ignoring all warnings.
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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2007, 03:42:32 am »
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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2007, 04:05:43 am »
Godmodding is not fun  :thumbdown:
IMHO If someone wants to RP with me and start godmodding... I'll warn him and if he keep godmodding, I'll just step out, and walk away.
Ignoring godmodders is a god way to avoid such behavior.

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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 04:27:13 am »
Roleplaying quality improves better when it is promoted and supported, not when it is enforced.

Also the line between what is and what is not godmodding, sometimes is very blurry, meaning that any enforcement of it may lead to intense griefing as ambiguous interpretations may be found.

Just as an example, there is this thread(it is an example, you shouldn't continue the dead discussion about its content here) where a certain fact was strongly(and uselessly) argued about on whether it was godmodding or not. I think that asking GMs to interfere on roleplays based on each one's definition about "godmodding" would definitively cause some big trouble.

There is only one solution, it lies in the community. If all those real godmodders(I mean people who fight like "DBZ sayajins" with godlike magical powers, etc) are completely put into ostracism, they will either change their ways, or leave.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2007, 04:43:02 am by Raleigh »

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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2007, 09:19:16 am »
Under current rules we can do nothing to stop godmodding all I can suggest is you make it clear OOCly that you consider it so and avoid continued rp with the person/s involved.
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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2007, 09:29:16 am »
Use the /ignore command. Ostracize that "roleplayer" until he or she decides to stick to some common sense rules. Roleplaying is very much like a tacit agreement among the players, so if you don't agree, state it clearly and just walk away.
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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2007, 10:03:21 am »
Use the /ignore command. Ostracize that "roleplayer" until he or she decides to stick to some common sense rules.
I don't know much about the /ignore command but, how can you tell if a person is acting normal if you're ignoring him?

Under current rules we can do nothing to stop godmodding all I can suggest is you make it clear OOCly that you consider it so and avoid continued rp with the person/s involved.
I agree, the day before yesterday (if I'm correct), I walk to a group of people outside Kada's I greet Dallara (I didn't know that there were two 'demons among the group, with power of 'sucking evil and energy out of someone, another one was coughing up blood)
Afters Socks asked what was going on [he was kinda worried about the blood coughing] Then out of nowhere Dallara and Socks are grabbed by their throats and their energie was being sucked out...  ??? I was like WTF? in OOC but they kept going... Socks tried to challenge on of them [Cause hey, I just think that sucking  energy out isn't that a good Idea] Then I get the OOC response that it is an RP to kill someone else and I just SHOULD play along  ??? well we kinda fled we both didn't know crap what was going on
Then suddenly  :sorcerer: Server crash ^^ A nice way to get on with an alt and don't mind them any more

From that day on, I gave Socks the ability to tilts his head and walk around things neither him or me can understand  ;)

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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 11:47:17 pm »
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Roleplaying quality improves better when it is promoted and supported, not when it is enforced.

I disagree. If there are no concequenses to misbehaving a group who keeps RPing something that is obviously godmodding makes it that others start leaning towards it aswell. The community ofcourse should be the first to try and handle it, but the question wasn't if a GM should do something every time, but if someone keeps doing it multible times.

It's also not without precedent becuase things like Dwarves Bane for example were told they couldn't continue becuase what they did was against the setting. Godmodding is in almost all cases against the setting aswell. Specially if it goes as far that you would need to report it to a GM.

« Last Edit: April 27, 2007, 11:48:51 pm by Garile »
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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 06:54:21 am »
Umm wtf is godmodding?  :-)

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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2007, 07:12:25 am »
Someone explained to me: "God modding is telling me what will happen, not what may happen." - In other words: Dictating a roleplay.

A blatantly obvious example: Someone you play with tells you that he makes you a will-less follower, and you have to obey his commands from now (as it happened in some "vampirism" activity). Obvious example, as I said ...

Somewhere between accidental and harmless, instead, was a scene when I was accused of god modding when I told someone I would (due to quite obvious advantage in physical strength) grab his hands on his back and push him out of the tavern (as a result of ignoring common rules and disturbing others by ignorance and megalomaniacal statements - as happened with Dermorian Lords)...

The borders are thin, accusing is easy, definitions are rare.

I'd prefer to cooperate in a roleplay (at least from the OOC point of view). The most dangerous evil characters are not automatically the invincible ones!

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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2007, 09:01:23 pm »
Godmodding:
Rping to have power over things you do not have or to RP to have abilities you do not have.

But the godmodding I feel should be reportable to a GM shouldn't be the "He pushed me out of the tavern and didn't give me a chance to respond" but "He summoned a specter from the Deathrealm to torment my soul and then kick me out of the tavern as I was helpless"
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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2007, 09:09:36 pm »
* Proglin takes of your head and decides to use it as a vass for pwetty flowers.

that's godmodding.

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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2007, 10:32:14 pm »
* Nurahk summons a huge demon from the death realm than can kill anybody.

That would also be godmodding
* Nurahk reads your mind and knows you will betray him.

That is also godmodding.

In any way claiming to have powers which you should not have and which decrease the enjoyment of those RPing with you.
* Nurahk kills you with a knife.

Would be twinking...which is also bad.

That's how I understand it anyways.

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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2007, 10:54:32 pm »
I think there is a difference between

1) Godmodding = giving your fellow roleplayers no chance to react or change your intentions. Dominating an RP.

 and

2) Godmodding = ignoring or filling the settings in at your leisure to create skills, abilities, characters or environments which are under your control alone.

The first is always wrong, the second is very dangerous and can go wrong easily.

Personally I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't fully ban the second definition of godmodding because it would kill creativity and originality. But it's very hard to draw the line between what is a creative addition to the game and what is bending the rules to overpower oneself at the cost of others. That latter should be frowned upon and avoided at all costs.
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Re: RPcorner: Godmodding. Something to report to a GM?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2007, 11:37:16 pm »
So what is the opinion you hold if someone is mob lynched by 5 people. More often than not they will either godmod out of it or walk away from the RP just because it doesnt favour their character. In this case the person god modding isnt the assulting but the defending. Does it make a difference?
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