Hogging of the Furnace

[zanzibar]

Hmmm.

Delete Harn's as a usable furnace (unless you get in real good with him, and possibly become his apprentice). Add a -large- public foundry/smithy (something the size of the temple would be realistic). It is silly to think a businessman and smith such as Harn would let any nobody walk in and use his coal, tools, and furnace in direct competition to him.

Maybe there's some sort of law in Hydlaa that says you can't prevent others from using things like furnaces?  Something to do with the public good maybe?  Just brainstorming.

[Lange]

HI,

Thanks for all thinking with me.. I did not mean to brake the economy with my melting, but I just wanted to have my words heared.

Maybe I should rephrase my complaint/question/wishlist:

Can we have max 4 slots per melter at the furnace ( technically possible). (the forge is no problem by the way. The crafters are thinking of other people.)
If yes
How much time will it cost to implement. If this is going to take to long, well do not bother because there are more important things to develop in PS. Getting annoyed by people who do not think of others is a minor thing even if this influence the gameplay or role playing.

[ThomPhoenix]

It's planned for the future, Under the moon. The Steel Bazaar in Ojaveda is what you want.

[Illyria]

Hmm, So all these people down by the furnace are self centered money makers with no regards to the 'normal smiths' and other self centered money makers?
  Delete the money, Delete the money!

* Illyria gets an  revelation : Time limits!, not longer that a certain amount of time can one use the furnace in a row, after the limit is passed you must wait a certain amount of time before you can begin again (you ores and stuff will be placed in you inv again so they won't dust , and maybe they can make it work so that if your ore was just about to melt you get a little more extra time [exploit!] )

hope it works out for the normal smiths!

[Zwenze]

You can melt gold ores in heaps. But player melt it one by one as they get more metalurgy progress -> Easy fix: No metalurgy progress from gold at all

[zanzibar]

You can melt gold ores in heaps. But player melt it one by one as they get more metalurgy progress -> Easy fix: No metalurgy progress from gold at all

I thought you can only get experience from making stocks?

[Caarrie]

I thought you can only get experience from making stocks?

Depends on what lvl you are if you do or not.

[bilbous]

The way it works now is sort of silly and is what leads to this kind of problem. It makes sense in a way but really I think it would be better if it was somehow limited so that working 10 piles of one unit of material at once gave no more practice than working one pile of 10 units instead of 10 time the practice. It should give diminishing returns so the one pile of 10 or 10 piles of one give 5 times the practice of working one pile of one. I imagine it would not be too easy to code or it might have been done by now. This would certainly ease the problem and would seem more realistic. It might not help though as one crafter could use multiple characters to just increase their production rate.

[Mornox]

Why is it so valuable at all to melt gold?

I see people selling gold ore for 400 tria per piece, while NPCs buy gold for 240 - and those buying it for 400 seem to do that happily. Even at such a price, they seem to get Richie rich ... or what? What is the point of such an excessive metallurgy? What do people need such amounts of money for?

While I spend a fair bit of time mining and refining gold, I doubt that many would consider me rich.  I'm not wealthy...but my trainers must be so!   Let's see, I'm a devotee of Crystal Way, that cost me 20k to train last week.  So, excellent question, sir...why do these NPCs need such excessive amounts of money?  I'm willing to do tasks for my teachers, as any apprentice should.


And someone earlier in the thread asked why players would need more than 1 furnace slot.  I use more slots (when fewer people at the furnace) because I once experienced the unbridled joy of seeing 10 gold ores turn to slag in an instant.   Now I melt 3 or 4 at a time.  Lesson learned!  And I also agree; there's no desperate hurry here; if the furnace is busy, no one should be using more than a few slots.  Take time, bask in the heat of the furnace.