If Planeshift intends to be original...

[Karyuu]

It seems to me, Valorius, that this game is very little to you but a PvP playground with RP flavors. And this part is directed towards the general public: you are too bloodthirsty. All of you who are going around fighting wars, challenging people to duels. PS isn't a PvP game, even if we have PvP combat available. Don't overuse it. Don't be so eager to jump on others and spill their entrails. It doesn't make you "cool," or "badass." It doesn't impress me, nor any other developers. It's completely your choice, but when I read about people bragging about their duel skills, I yawn. This game isn't for joyous slaughter of other characters, whether you attempt to cover that with RP or no.

Valorius: your previous comment about any lack of law enforcement in Yliakum completely misses the point Raleigh was making. I suggest you read over it again.

[zanzibar]

I enjoyed it to a point. My dwarven character at that point was a miner and not a warrior at all. In other words I was a defenceless victem and eventually it led to me losing interest because I couldn't leave the upstairs of the tavern. I could have asked to be excluded but that would be a bit strange from an rp point of view and I could have leveled up but that would have been OOC. I ended up leaving the game for a while instead.

Yes, god forbid you actually train...

Parallo prefers to train his mind and soul.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

raliegh you will be please to know we do have intent to skip most of the ones you extracted from that site 

current settings team does have to deal with what came before but you will see things significantly altered over time.

I think ps is very unique

[Valorius Rageway]

It seems to me, Valorius, that this game is very little to you but a PvP playground with RP flavors. And this part is directed towards the general public: you are too bloodthirsty. All of you who are going around fighting wars, challenging people to duels. PS isn't a PvP game, even if we have PvP combat available. Don't overuse it. Don't be so eager to jump on others and spill their entrails. It doesn't make you "cool," or "badass." It doesn't impress me, nor any other developers. It's completely your choice, but when I read about people bragging about their duel skills, I yawn. This game isn't for joyous slaughter of other characters, whether you attempt to cover that with RP or no.

Valorius: your previous comment about any lack of law enforcement in Yliakum completely misses the point Raleigh was making. I suggest you read over it again.

I'm not trying to impress you or anyone else. I'm trying to entertain myself.

Mission successful to date.

As far as "what this game is for", i'd say it's many things to many people. I doubt any two people would say it's "for" the same things. To me, it's for....playing.

One cannot 'abuse' wars or duels because there is a simple 'decline' option. If you don't want to fight someone there is absolutely ZERO way for someone else to force you to do it. It's really quite simple.

PS: I understand exactly what raliegh was saying. One can pretend Yliakum is a well organized and well enforced democracy, but that is not the same as 'reality'. In reality, blood flows freely in Yliakum, and there is no penalty for virtually anything, including mass murder. :-P

[zanzibar]

It seems to me, Valorius, that this game is very little to you but a PvP playground with RP flavors. And this part is directed towards the general public: you are too bloodthirsty. All of you who are going around fighting wars, challenging people to duels. PS isn't a PvP game, even if we have PvP combat available. Don't overuse it. Don't be so eager to jump on others and spill their entrails. It doesn't make you "cool," or "badass." It doesn't impress me, nor any other developers. It's completely your choice, but when I read about people bragging about their duel skills, I yawn. This game isn't for joyous slaughter of other characters, whether you attempt to cover that with RP or no.

Valorius: your previous comment about any lack of law enforcement in Yliakum completely misses the point Raleigh was making. I suggest you read over it again.

I'm not trying to impress you or anyone else. I'm trying to entertain myself.

Mission successful to date.

Perhaps, but Karyuu was dead on in her description of you.

If you enjoy player-killing, that's fine.  But when you start to define all aspects of existence as meaningful only when expressed through duels, then there's a problem.

[Valorius Rageway]

It seems to me, Valorius, that this game is very little to you but a PvP playground with RP flavors. And this part is directed towards the general public: you are too bloodthirsty. All of you who are going around fighting wars, challenging people to duels. PS isn't a PvP game, even if we have PvP combat available. Don't overuse it. Don't be so eager to jump on others and spill their entrails. It doesn't make you "cool," or "badass." It doesn't impress me, nor any other developers. It's completely your choice, but when I read about people bragging about their duel skills, I yawn. This game isn't for joyous slaughter of other characters, whether you attempt to cover that with RP or no.

Valorius: your previous comment about any lack of law enforcement in Yliakum completely misses the point Raleigh was making. I suggest you read over it again.

I'm not trying to impress you or anyone else. I'm trying to entertain myself.

Mission successful to date.

Perhaps, but Karyuu was dead on in her description of you.

If you enjoy player-killing, that's fine.  But when you start to define all aspects of existence as meaningful only when expressed through duels, then there's a problem.

Well good luck with your "problem".

PS: You're aware PS is a game, right? It's not real...you know that, right? :-P

[Karyuu]

PS: I understand exactly what raliegh was saying. One can pretend Yliakum is a well organized and well enforced democracy, but that is not the same as 'reality'. In reality, blood flows freely in Yliakum, and there is no penalty for virtually anything, including mass murder. :-P

You fail, and brilliantly so

Just because there is no coded guard system at the moment does not mean that "anything goes" when it comes to murder and crime in Yliakum. You roleplay in a world with specific settings, whether they are supported at this stage by actual game mechanics or not. Tread lightly, Valorius.

[zanzibar]

Well good luck with your "problem".

PS: You're aware PS is a game, right? It's not real...you know that, right? :-P

It's an ongoing "problem" that we've learned to adapt with.

PS: You're aware that not everything that happens in game is IC... you know that, right? :-P

[Eliseth]

PS: I understand exactly what raliegh was saying. One can pretend Yliakum is a well organized and well enforced democracy, but that is not the same as 'reality'. In reality, blood flows freely in Yliakum, and there is no penalty for virtually anything, including mass murder. :-P

You fail, and brilliantly so

Just because there is no coded guard system at the moment does not mean that "anything goes" when it comes to murder and crime in Yliakum. You roleplay in a world with specific settings, whether they are supported at this stage by actual game mechanics or not. Tread lightly, Valorius.

Indeed, IC speaking, Yliakum is exactly like the developers want the end product to be, and that is why you should base your RP upon the setting, which clearly states that Yliakum is peaceful and well organised with a strong government and law enforcement system. Not so?

So when in character, obey the law because technically you will be punished for bad deeds. I think roleplaying an evil character is a lot harder than most people realise.

[Nurahk]

I think roleplaying an evil character is a lot harder than most people realise.

Don't make the assumption that all criminals are evil or that all evil people are criminals.

Aside from that, I agree completely.

[zanzibar]

I find that almost all of the "duelers" consider their characters to be alligned with good.  Of course, I find them to be a few things.

[Valorius Rageway]

PS: I understand exactly what raliegh was saying. One can pretend Yliakum is a well organized and well enforced democracy, but that is not the same as 'reality'. In reality, blood flows freely in Yliakum, and there is no penalty for virtually anything, including mass murder. :-P

You fail, and brilliantly so

Just because there is no coded guard system at the moment does not mean that "anything goes" when it comes to murder and crime in Yliakum. You roleplay in a world with specific settings, whether they are supported at this stage by actual game mechanics or not. Tread lightly, Valorius.

And once more, CLEARLY that is not the actual state of Yliakum. There are murders daily in public in Hydlaa. And thefts ('real' and RPed), and assaults (RP'ed). So you may RP that yliakum is 'lawful', when all around you "Rome is burning".

I have no power to stop the obvious and ongoing crime that exists in Yliakum despite your ongoing protestations of a well ordered society, nor do i have any desire to.

Laanx has that power, but rarely exercizes it. Because of this, few fear his retribution. What's more, when i DID try to police a particularly nefarius fiend, it was made clear to me in no uncertain terms by the Gms that her evil RP was very much needed and desired. I believe that same said player killed about 60 players in a matter of weeks in every underhanded way one can imagine.

Yliakum is what it is, and what it is is most certainly not peaceful.

[ Double-quote removed. --Kary ]

(i was just going in to remove the double quote too, sorry about that!)

[Karyuu]

And if players suddenly start to RP UFOs, we'll allow that in as official settings material too, eh?

Rethink what you're saying, and what you're doing. Normally if you encounter something that does not obey the settings of a world, you ignore it and move on. For some reason, you choose to embrace it. Don't be hasty in your bloodthirst.

[zanzibar]

And once more, CLEARLY that is not the actual state of Yliakum. There are murders daily in public in Hydlaa. And thefts ('real' and RPed), and assaults (RP'ed). So you may RP that yliakum is 'lawful', when all around you "Rome is burning".

I have no power to stop the obvious and ongoing crime that exists in Yliakum despite your ongoing protestations of a well ordered society, nor do i have any desire to.

Laanx has that power, but rarely exercizes it. Because of this, few fear his retribution. What's more, when i DID try to police a particularly nefarius fiend, it was made clear to me in no uncertain terms by the Gms that her evil RP was very much needed and desired. I believe that same said player killed about 60 players in a matter of weeks in every underhanded way one can imagine.

Yliakum is what it is, and what it is is most certainly not peaceful.

OH give it a break, Val.  You enjoy player killing.  That's why you duel so much.

[Feline Prince]

Pfft, you cant rp robbing someone with a death threat because everyone that you would rob (because no one in their right mind would try and rob a 'dualer') knows you cant kill them occ, and uses that ooc knowledge IC and just act all imortal, even if you are a kran with a claymore and they are a dwarf with a spoon. And in a more ontopic flavour, 'Dualers' RPs are bland, to say the least. They make a little group of friends, if anyone insults their friends or them, they go out and kill them. Thats the way it always goes down. Its hard to be a criminal in Planeshift because crimials prey on people weaker than themselves, 99% of the time the weaker person in planeshift will just act untouchable, regardless. I want to see a limb breaking skill