OOC pulled IC like mad

[socia]

I'm only getting sad with latest ingame PS developement, about month ago I spreaded ooc word about getiing info about imperium and possible attack on them.. making sure that it is visible ooc I used [], I wonder why now imperium IC says that we are planing attack...

There was ooc talk about attacking Orders of Daggers oh why are we now 'icly' attacked by them that we betrade them?

 and so on, it's like pushing me to do realy mass /ignore, why?

is it so hard to notice those [] and _don't_  pull them ic?

what if I say someone [I'm gay], next day people in game start attacking my fenki char because she's gay?

and than people ask me why I keep 90% of my RPs private between few persons.

[John80sk]

seperating IC from OOC is something most players just can't wrap their heads around... if you want something secret IC best to keep it as such OOC as well.

[bilbous]

Why the heck would you talk OOCly about IC activities in an open channel? It makes no sense to me. If you call up your buddy in another guild and tell him on the phone that your guild was going to attack his guild would you be surprised if they ambushed you next time you logged in.

[neko kyouran]

And your statement proves the point that you can't seperate what happens IC, and what happens ooc.

[socia]

oh interesting, where I said about open channel? everything happend in tells...

[bilbous]

Fair enough, then. Tells are OOC by nature and do not need [] which is where I mistook your meaning. My question regarding the phone scenario becomes even more apt.

[Cebot]

I guess the point of this is, that people can't keep ooc information as ooc information. Not depending on the information. Socia could have said "whatever" (like she brought up the gay example).

People who claim to be good role players treat other chars IC for ooc happenings, for OOC rumors. I don't blame people who don't know much about roleplaying. But i blame those who do know what ic and ooc is and still use information given in [] in charachter. Every of those complaints when someone does not use [] in main chat and at the same time they simply ignore the [] and get the information ic.

The same scenario is about alt chars. Some people you can explain several times that char1 != char2 != char3 and so on. Still they keep caling you char1 when you're logged in as char3 - even in main chat when others are around.

@bilbous: Tells are not always ooc. If the person stands next to you it could be used as whisper. Also for sending messages via groffel-post And socia used the [] to make it sure for everyone that it is ooc.

Cheers, Cebot

[Piriel]

I guess the point of this is, that people can't keep ooc information as ooc information. Not depending on the information

And sadly this things happen to more and more people and quite a few I didn't expect to do so. Disappointing, is all I can say.

[Nurahk]

And to be expected.  Few people can know something without their characters knowing it as well.  Something to do with them getting too attached to their characters.

My advise is think before you say something OOC and never talk about plans.

[Zan]

Also do not always assume the worst just because you don't understand how information leaked out.You're drawing conclusions for which you have no evidence .. it is still possible that whoever is involved got their information in a completely IC way which you don't know about.

[Piriel]

I spreaded ooc word about getiing info about imperium and possible attack on them.. making sure that it is visible ooc I used []

it is still possible that whoever is involved got their information in a completely IC way which you don't know about.

Yes, some people might have got it in an IC way. But still, since the information originated OOC, someone must have gotten it wrong and pulled it into IC. That's the whole idea really... Some people not being able to make the difference. If X tells something OOC to Y and Y takes it IC to Z, of course Z has no fault in this matter.

[Zan]

Who says it was only stated OOC? Maybe someone else from the involved guild mentioned it IC, maybe someone eavesdropped on a conversation? Who knows ... sometimes jumping to conclusions can lead to the wrong ones.

[socia]

Zan don't react if you don't know what you are talking about or please just read what others already said, NO I DID SPREAD OOC RUMOR just to see this and point this out because I was gettiong angry of ooc becoming ic, now when I see how it went I could even start pointing finger on people, but would that be worth of it?

Only thing I'm doing is making you people think about it and start making difference between OOC and IC. no they had no chance to learn about it IC.

[Zan]

That's all I'm doing as well, making people think in general So I think I'll react anyways if I have something to say .. always keep an open mind.

P.S.: You already pointed your finger in a general direction, I'm not sure if that was worth it either.

[socia]

no i didn't pointed finger as I didn't say where this thing started and where it changed to IC. Yes make people think and don't mix OOC and IC or this game will go down wery quickly.