Author Topic: Possible Problem in Harn's Learning Metal Working Quest - Not simple  (Read 1151 times)

Moniker

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Greetings I hope you can help

    I've been playing the game 11 days. Since Monday May 14th. I went straight to Harn's and asked for a
quest. He gave me the "Learning Sword Making" quest. I thought this odd since he was asking for
2 steel stocks and I had read somewhere in a guide, that he would want iron stocks or something.
But, I didn't know any better, so I played until today. I just tried to learn metal working, and to my surprise
I was told by a player when I asked someone for help, that I needed to have equiped a book from the Harn
quest "Learning Metal Working". Well, the funny thing is I can refine iron ore into iron ingots, and I can melt
iron stock into melted iron and convert them back to iron ingots. The problem is I don't get any practice points
for doing it. I've played 10 days and know what to expect in the way of getting practice points ! My Metallurgy
progress bar is all the way green and I can't progress even to lvl 1 unless I get practice points, what
am I to do ! I worked very hard in those 11 days. I've reached level 150 strength, 100 agility, 9 mining, 7 weapon
repair, 80 intell, and I can't offhand remember the rest, but my other stats were fairly high for a beginner. Please
don't tell me I'll have to create a new character and start over!

PS - I have 2 other quest's that involve Harn, The Vresa Sword Quest and the Thorian Shield Quest
      These would seem straight forward but, Harn won't take the Vresa note or the Thorian Shield
      when I try and give them to him. The dialog returned to me is "Harnquist doesn't need this" or
      something very similar. Would these be effected by my problem with the Metal Working Quest?

EDIT - May 25th 2:00PM EDT
     The first 2 replys miss the main point here, the first quest Harn gave me should have been "Learning Metal Working"
but it wasn't. I never completed it, didn't get the book, and didn't learn the book. YET I CAN STILL REFINE ORE AND
MAKE IRON STOCKS(yet I get no practice points). I shouldn't be able to do this.
     
                                       Can anyone help me with this ?
                                       My Character is "CELILL MONIHUDE"           Thanks
« Last Edit: May 25, 2007, 08:10:53 pm by Moniker »

Starg

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You need to learn to make iron and steel stocks.  I suggest you go to Trasok, and ask him for quests, and only accept if he gives you a quest about learning a job.  Do not accept any other quest, for example learning to make shields or helping him to compete with Harnquist.  The job you will learn will help you to go further.

I'm assuming you completed the learning sword making quest and have Harnquist's reward.  If you haven't completed it, it will block the other quests.

Your only other option is to complete or discard the quests you have been given.  I think the Thorian shield quest may be discardable, but I don't know about the Vresa Note.

steuben

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the problem is that you have conflucting quests and haven't been reading the server motd.

try to drop the ones you can. but if you can't there isn't much that can be done.
may laanx frighten the shadow from my path.
hardly because the shadow built the lexx.
the shadow will frighten laanx from my path.

Moniker

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Thanks for replying Steuben and Starg,

 Here is a clarification of events that lead up to this.
  1.   This was the 2nd character I created. From the first One I knew I could get some tria from
        an NPC to buy weapons be delivering a message to the commander of the Sunshine Guard
       at the BD Fortress.
2.    I created my new character, completed this quest(don't want to give it away to new players)
      got my tria and went to see Harn for a weapon.
3.   I got to Harn's asked for a quest and bought a sword. I don't remember which came first.
     Harn gave me the wrong quest, but I didn't know it at the time or I would have stopped and
     asked for help then.

The quest Harn gave me was the "Learning Sword Making". He should have given me
"Learning Metal Working", that's the problem. I have not completed the Sword Making Quest.
   I never did the "Learning Metal Working Quest"( To be sure I looked in Completed Quests, not there)
never got the book, and never learned the book. I should not be able to refine ore or cast stock, but
I CAN and HAVE DONE SO, several times to make sure. How is this possible.

   I should just for testing purposes see if I can make steel, even though my Metallurgy Level is still 0
Of course  I shouldn't be able to, but I shouldn't be able to refine iron ore, but I can.

  As for not reading the server MOTD, during the time I have been a player I have read them everyday
the MOTD during my time in the game (11 days), sine May 14th, have told players to stay away from
the BDroad area because a lot of players have been crashing there. During that time I did ask other
NPC's for quests, some I could complete quickly, until a GM sent me a message that it was best if
I limit my quests to about 2. After that I have not taken on any others and have been doing my
best to clean out what I have.

BTY - Since this is a game in Alpha testing. Someone, not me(I've played 11 days and may have to
        delete my character and start over(for the 2nd time since alpha testing for you), someone
        should create a new character and go through the steps I've listed above and see if the
       problem is repeatable. You might prove my point, get the logic in the game fixed. But you
       probably won't be able to help me. I know you try, but a nice BIG warning to people considering
      downloading the game. It is not a regular game, you will be alpha testing, and may, because of
      problems with the game, as coded, might occationally run into a problem with your character
      that can't be solved and have to start over. This may be day 1, or after playing for for a month
      or more, who knows, and all the time you've spent on your character will be lost !
         I hope that I haven't violated any forum rules with this aside. If you delete my post because
     of it you are not being helpful and you'll show us you are willing to forgo the helping of an individual
    for the sake of putting a "happy face" on the game and hiding the current reality. I know this is
    untrue, am I right?
                                          Thank you for your Input Anyway.

 
« Last Edit: May 25, 2007, 08:55:49 pm by Moniker »

palsec

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From what i remember of my own way, anyone can melt iron and shape it into ingots whith a level 0 green bar in metalurgy. Iron is the basic work in this speciality.
What you need is trying to shape molten iron into Iron Stocks.... for this, ask people at the furnace about "Iron Stocks" (not only "stocks" or they will believe you're looking for steel stocks...)... i think it could solve your problem and make you a more experienced smith apprentice.
If i'm near the furnace, i'll be glad to help you ingame .... but i didn' play much last weeks and don't think school will softened with the summer  :sweatdrop:.


edit: sorry, i must stop to post at stupid hours instead of sleeping ... i made a confusion with sword making..
To made Iron stocks, you'll need in fact the book from the Learning stocks quest
« Last Edit: May 28, 2007, 01:44:27 pm by palsec »