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Is Black Flame holy?
« on: June 01, 2007, 12:34:26 pm »
Is it holy? Is it sacred?

I'd like an official answer, if possible.

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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 04:14:51 pm »
To its followers it would be.
Holy is just a point of view.

Protos

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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2007, 07:39:39 pm »
Is it an official stance or an opinion?

If it's official, is it then fair to say that to non-followers, it or anything related to it would not be holy or sacred?

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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2007, 07:55:25 pm »
You're right. Respecting religions is another thing though.
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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2007, 08:18:59 pm »
Anything that is seen in a religious manner can be called holy, according to the dictionary. The Black Flame is obviously a religion since it can be chosen in your character's religious preferences ... so this makes it automatically holy for the people that worship the Black Flame.

Not sure what you imply by holy though, it's always a good thing to be more specific when asking questions.
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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2007, 08:24:20 pm »
Assuming for a moment that these answers are an official stance (until someone from the team confirms/denies), same thing applies to Laanx and Talad.

If holy is a point of view and requires to be a follower (or non-follower) of a particular god, can that point of view be genetically hard-coded into a whole race, and can it then still be called a point of view?

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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2007, 09:15:21 pm »
Well I wouldn't be too fussed about not using tweezers to read the Qur'an
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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2007, 09:23:37 pm »
Well I wouldn't be too fussed about not using tweezers to read the Qur'an

I'm opening a new variant on such thread:

Now that you make such reference, if possibly misinterpretations of the book you cited with second intentions convince people to wrap a bomb around their bodies and blow something in/beonging to US/Israel, what impeaches Book-of-Names thumpers of becoming fanatic war mongrels and wreak havoc in the name of Laanx or something similar in the case of the Black Flame?

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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2007, 10:03:20 pm »
Assuming for a moment that these answers are an official stance (until someone from the team confirms/denies), same thing applies to Laanx and Talad.

If holy is a point of view and requires to be a follower (or non-follower) of a particular god, can that point of view be genetically hard-coded into a whole race, and can it then still be called a point of view?

Stop fo a while and think on what the heck you are writing about.
Are you going to start asking devs of a random game if sky is blue, or if by saying hello you are welcoming someone?

None of what has been said can be official! And if official, who are the oficials? Are you going to ask them if Buddha is holy ? If they say yes, then it is obviously holy also for me, like anyone else xD. I'm not even buddist...

Ultimately I have no idea whats your point if you can't agree with me. :D



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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2007, 10:11:39 pm »
Well I wouldn't be too fussed about not using tweezers to read the Qur'an

I'm opening a new variant on such thread:

Now that you make such reference, if possibly misinterpretations of the book you cited with second intentions convince people to wrap a bomb around their bodies and blow something in/beonging to US/Israel, what impeaches Book-of-Names thumpers of becoming fanatic war mongrels and wreak havoc in the name of Laanx or something similar in the case of the Black Flame?

Look at the Vespers of Laanx guild. They did something to that effect.
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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 11:47:18 am »
Yes, the black flame is sacred. But I doubt you'll see much in a holy symbol, as very few are supposed to know of it's worship. Unless xillix decides to change things of course :B
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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 03:03:18 pm »
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But I doubt you'll see much in a holy symbol, as very few are supposed to know of it's worship. Unless xillix decides to change things of course :B

There already is. Has been for months.

That's what I love about players sometimes. If we don't come straight out and tell them about changes, people will continue to tell newbies that things don't exist. "To the best of my knowledge" is a good qualifier for such things. :)
« Last Edit: June 02, 2007, 03:05:41 pm by Jeraphon »

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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2007, 06:19:17 pm »
Bwahaha .. our ploy for getting more official information on the settings is finally working! :P
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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2007, 10:05:26 pm »
Honestly I'd rather you guys got a smattering of information than perpetuated myths.

I think the question of "Is the Black Flame holy?" is a valid one, inasmuch as Diaboli are vulnerable to "holy" or "blessed" weapons, and whether a weapon "blessed" by the Black Flame would affect them the same way needs to be known. Settings doesn't have an answer for you about that yet, but I'll try and get it discussed. Until then, please don't degrade this thread into a debate on religion in general. Thanks! :)

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Re: Is Black Flame holy?
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2007, 10:22:24 pm »
Since holy is a point of view and has not been denied as an official stance by Jeraphon, how can a whole race become vulnerable to anything holy, sacred and blessed, if they don't recognize it as such in the first place because they don't follow either of the three gods?

Why does a whole race not have a choice to follow any of the three gods, considering that holy is a point of view, and hence a choice? And if it is a choice, why isn't more than a single race punished for making a similar choice?

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