Author Topic: Glyph Purification  (Read 1155 times)

bilbous

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Glyph Purification
« on: June 03, 2007, 08:14:59 pm »
This is just a minor thing but I would very much like to be able to purify glyphs by right or double clicking on them on the C-screen Glyph list instead of having to go to the combine glyph sub-screen and then dragging them onto the purify button. This would be ergonomically preferable.

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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 12:07:58 am »
What's the "C-screen glyph list"?
Secondly, you can only purify one glyph of every kind, so you won't purify glyphs that often. Ergonomically preferable?
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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 12:45:36 am »
i think he means the spell book that comes up when you press the key c on the keyboard [default key]. that window has nothing to do with holding glyphs it is only for spells so this will not happen unless they change the gui and its function.

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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 12:54:05 am »
Ah yes. Still, you only have to purify every glyph once, there's no point in purifying 10 glyphs of the same kind if you can only use one.
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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 01:16:18 am »
Indeed I was a little confused, the glyphs I was seeing on that screen were just the ones associated with the spell list. Let me amend that to adding a purify option to the glyph context menu once it is in the inventory. Or just forget it altogether. It might be more trouble than it is worth.

N.B Ergonomics basically strives for efficiencies and ease of use as fundamental design considerations. I do understand that it is more the polish of the product and that PS is still more in the functionality phase of development.

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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 02:25:17 pm »
The point is that you don't purify glyphs that often. If  you have 10 glyphs that you will have to go to the glyph inventory, there you need to drag 10 glyphs onto the purify button. That's it. You won't need to purify those glyphs again, ever. So why add another button to the inventory, it will only get more cluttered if you add buttons for every small action.

Currently you can have multiple glyphs of the same kind purified. But why would you do this? You only need one to do all spells. Therefore in the next release you can only purify one kind of the same kind.
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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2007, 06:03:15 pm »
It is true of course you do not purify glyphs that often but my amended suggestion had nothing to do with adding a button to the inventory window. It was to add an option to the items context menu that only appears when it is in your possession (inventory) that would allow you to take a logical action with it. In this case you could purify the glyph. As it stands now many items have completely useless context menu options. No I guess it is the action locations that have this "use" or "combine" option. What exactly are you supposed to combine in Levrus' 2nd floor bookshelf? I digress...

Such a typical action context menu choice could have a wide range of applications. You could "eat" an apple, "drink" an ale, "equip" a weapon.

My main problem with the purification system from which this topic stems is that the spell window is ~90% of the screen resolution and covers most every thing else. I have to juggle the windows in order to see when the glyph is purified. Also while drag and drop is useful in some instances it is more efficient to right-click then click nearby than to move the cursor halfway across the screen.

The only reason I can think of where drag and drop would be faster is in the case where it was local to the client, sending the server an update on completion instead of requesting a context menu from the server before any action can be taken. You could get around this by caching item contexts locally for items in your possession.

Whether or not this idea gets adopted I think it is a valid thing to discuss as it may suggest a different approach to a completely different problem that someone actually doing the work may be having. It has happened to me more than once that I found something someone said useful in a way they never would have imagined.

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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 01:19:41 am »
When a glyph is purified it gets a golden border around it in both the Glyph Inventory and the Main Inventory, no juggling involved.

Context menus for all items is something else though, I'd like that.
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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 01:49:29 am »
That is true about the glyphs although some of the busier ones take up the whole canvas and the border is impossible to see, specifically: Mind, Vortex and Cold, others are only slightly better. In my inventory Humanoid, Lightning and Energy seem to have no border on the icons in my glyph bag though they do in the glyph grid in the spell book. Perhaps these things would be better reported on the bugtracker.


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Re: Glyph Purification
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 02:26:02 am »
Go ahead ;)
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