Evil and Organized

[Raleigh]

Or something like that:

"...our customers expect no less of us. We have never
sought to become a monopoly. Our products are simply so good that
no one feels the need to compete with us."

      Where do you want your Longsword today?

@Natrina: As I said, if I know enough people will be interested, I might be willing to create such target for the "good guys", but with a rather unique characteristic.

[Valorius Rageway]

Good Citizens

     Or course this is just roleplaying in the game PlaneShift ! Or course references such as NATO, WARSAW PACT, etc are OOC !
Of course I do not know the secret, behind the scenes, dealings of the, nameless few ? and I don't pretend I do. But, I can
imagine, Art imitates Life. Just look at today's OOC world for an example.

    However, it does seem I've hit a nerve. Dark doesn't equal Evil. Even in Roleplaying Lying, Cheating and Sealing are Evil. Some
would rather use the term Lawless, or Ruleless. Take advantage of others for our own fun, amusement and enrichment !
But, by all means, do not bring attention to us. Let's keep things behind, the scenes, hidden, secret. What they don't know,
is to our advantage !

    The point of my Message should be made clear. Those lawless groups, will take any advantage that they can. They are
organized. They are planning. They will surprise us. Do nothing, bury your head in the sand. Pollyanna Lives among us.
We do not want or need to rule. We need to organize, bring the Azure Light into the Darkness, Knowledge is Power.

                                                        - OR NOT ? What say the good citizens ? -

I wonder what 'alliance of evil guilds' you're referring to. There are a few small alliances of "evil" guilds, but nothing really worthy of note. I guess it depends how you define "Evil". If anything PS needs more chaos and evil, not less. What's more, many simply won't fight. They'll laugh or taunt you in brackets and continue to do whatever it is you want them to stop as if you don't even exist.

At any rate, if you get too many good guys, then PS is just an online sewing circle. "Evil" is a catalyst. Gotta have it.

[Illyria]

They'll laugh or taunt you in brackets and continue to do whatever it is you want them to stop as if you don't even exist.

Funny, very funny. that 'you' say such a thing.

~Enalyrius

[Bepules]

What's more, many simply won't fight. They'll laugh or taunt you in brackets and continue to do whatever it is you want them to stop as if you don't even exist.

Well, Valorius, Planeshift is not a game for player versus player, the game mechanics even don't allow this. You cannot force somebody to do a duel with you. You are known as a very powerfull and high skilled character. Nobody who is interested in roleplay and who is not as skilled as you would accept to do a duel with you. If somebody says to you in brackets (means ooc) that he won't fight with you in a duel you have to acceept this. You should not blame somebody as a coward or as bad role player if he won't fight with you.
Besides you are known as a bestial and bloodthirsty character who trains very often how to duel. So don't wonder why nobody wants to fight with you! The memory of your way to do a guild war is still in the heads of the people...

There is no need to do a duel to play an evil character!

[Draklar]

They'll laugh or taunt you in brackets and continue to do whatever it is you want them to stop as if you don't even exist.

I was lucky enough (or maybe avoiding CBers in general has its benefits) to have no confrontation with your character. I did however see some of her actions and I have to say, by all means, RP-wise she should be simply ignored. Your character is notorious for breaking laws of Yliakum, in the very middle of a large town.

Either what you do on the plaza is mere dueling; in which case people can ignore you all they want. If they don't want to accept, they don't need to.
Also: dueling in towns is a crime.

Or it's an open assault. In that case while a character wouldn't have choice other than to fight, if you happen to kill that character... here are some fun facts:
You're standing in the middle of a large town.
You just commited a crime, for which punishment (if notorious) may be even a permanent death.

Allow me to simplify:
Either the characters you challenge have all the RP right to ignore you, or your character should be non-existant by now.

[Phinehas]

Ooh! Ooh! Am I missing out on some flame wars? This should be interesting...

Draklar's right, though...

I also agree with something Zanzibar said at the very beginning of the thread. Something along the lines that PS's politics are more complicated than just good vs. evil. That's so true... Everyone seems to think that the only response to the inundation of good guilds is to begin to create "evil" guilds. Usually they're just pathetic. I strongly suggest looking into other alternatives than outright evil, they prove to be so much more interesting for all involved.

[Raleigh]

Ooh! Ooh! Am I missing out on some flame wars? This should be interesting...

     From my experience in these forums, I can asure you something you definitively already know: it won't take too much time for you to see another one.

Draklar's right, though...

I also agree with something Zanzibar said at the very beginning of the thread. Something along the lines that PS's politics are more complicated than just good vs. evil. That's so true... Everyone seems to think that the only response to the inundation of good guilds is to begin to create "evil" guilds. Usually they're just pathetic. I strongly suggest looking into other alternatives than outright evil, they prove to be so much more interesting for all involved.

     There is no simple definition of evil in a Brave New World, too bad it isn't medieval enough, although, depending on the possibilities given by mind control magics(and perhaps alchemy and Lah'ar), a fantasy-like "failed utopia"-like town might be possible somewhere in the stone labyrinths. We really have to wait for certain areas(Stone Labyrinths and DR mainly) and new features before more space opens for conflicts that go beyond silly PvP 1 vs. 1 combat and for "evil" guilds to have some significant and justifiable power, conflicts that involve more than physical combat and require much more than brute force(powerlevelled characters) are yet to come.

[zanzibar]

There are a few small alliances of "evil" guilds, but nothing really worthy of note.

This should be changed to:  "I don't know of any notable evil alliances."

What's more, many simply won't fight.

For good reason.  Many people won't fight you in particular due to your well-earned reputation.

[ThomPhoenix]

Funny you say that, Valorius. Some guilds have been threatening the Dark Empire lately, as I heard. Of course the Empire doesn't want to fight them. These guilds have called the Empire "Weak and cowardly", the only reason the Empire won't fight these guilds is their bad roleplay however. Besides, a roleplaying guild versus a powerleveller guild isn't really fair.

[zanzibar]

Funny you say that, Valorius. Some guilds have been threatening the Dark Empire lately, as I heard. Of course the Empire doesn't want to fight them. These guilds have called the Empire "Weak and cowardly", the only reason the Empire won't fight these guilds is their bad roleplay however. Besides, a roleplaying guild versus a powerleveller guild isn't really fair.

Yeah.  People like [not going to say it] will shout such things at anyone who declines a duel invite.  Individuals like such individual then bully their guild and friends and allies into doing the same.  It's harassment.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:  These people are hurting the game and its community and they should be made to leave if they don't clean up their act.