My Quests Still bugged

[Seosamh]

I would really like to know when the quest database will be repiaired or updated so that I may be able to regain my dropped quests back.I still have yet to see Winch because iI can not seem to get the quests needed to get there back after 6 months of waiting.It would be nice if someone could post a general timeline when it may happen so i may continue to explore since my character is stuck in limbo for advancement and kinowledge.

[Caarrie]

Remember there is more then one way to get in the winch and i dont think the devs will be telling us their plans till they have happened

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

1000 pardons.

We will have this running as soon as possible.

[Seosamh]

Thank you for the response..tells me that something is noted about it and being worked on..much obliged.

[Natrina]

 Ah, yeah. I've done all the quests around the Winch's good way that I can and only waiting to retake some of the quests that I can't due to discarding. And I'd take the second way in, but it's just not into my character.

[Jeraphon]

And I'd take the second way in, but it's just not into my character.

There are THREE ways, you know.

[Xanacru]

EDIT:

Forget it. Everything that makes PS even remotely look bad is censored here.

[Natrina]

There are THREE ways, you know.

Ah, that's better then. I'll give the third way a chance, or simply wait for you to finish it so I can do the way I've already did half of. *goes back to steel stock making.*

[Karyuu]

Let's try to be nice when making complaints or comments, okay? Whether you mean to insult someone's work or not is irrelevant - you should always phrase your posts so as to avoid disparaging team members or prospects. We're human and we're very capable of being defensive about our efforts if we feel ridiculed. If you can't say something in a nice way in public, it doesn't belong there.

[Xanacru]

It seems you'd rather lecture people on the manner of speaking than acknowledge the problem itself.

The whole quest is an insult to the players, and so is your make-nice post, which is a veiled censorship. I'm not afraid to speak my mind, so I won't sugar-coat my posts. The dialog in the said quest is that bad. I don't speak gibberish and I don't have a Gibberish-to-English translator handy.

What these responses tell me is that saying anything negative about PlaneShift is risky. You will get condescending responses, no action taken about the said quest itself, censorship and basically everything you said turned against you. No wonder most people would rather refer to their guild's tutorial/walkthrough on quests than say something.

I've made an alt character and spoke to many people in game, which are in guilds. Every single one agreed that the dialog in this quest is rubbish. Obviously, I won't name the guilds. But everyone who's reading - you all know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I won't sit here and argue with egocentric developers, who obviously won't even acknowledge that an improvement to this and many other quests is needed, especially when so many others are afraid to speak out. Let the dialog remain the way it is, it's obviously a stellar piece of writing.

Have a nice day.

[Karyuu]

I have held you in very high regard, Xanacru, and I really wouldn't want you to jeopardize that. But your latest post is exactly the sort of thing I do not want to see in the complaint section. Asking you to be careful with your words when you criticize someone's work is hardly asking you to censor yourself. If this is so impossible for you and if you'd rather think of us as machines who are incapable of feeling insulted, I'm disappointed.

[miadon]

I have a better idea. Why don't players think up their own quests, they go round asking people could you do "x thing for me", then if the person comes back and done what you asked. You reward them. Much more fun, and bring the world to life rather than just people just training all the fudgeing time.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Send a pm to me about the quest in question.

Do not be an insulting poo-hole.

You will specifically not get the help you want in a timely fashion by insulting a member of the team.

You should be even more wary of targeting mods with your critique.

It should not be too hard to understand that being a jerk in how you comport yourself will not win the day.

You who have enjoyed free speech all your lives clearly have no idea what censorship means, asking you to recognize the humanity of devs and speak in a respectful manner should not be beyond your capacities.

We work for free, not for insults.

I look forward to a nicely written private message on the quest in question. Good day.

[Jeraphon]

I have a better idea. Why don't players think up their own quests, they go round asking people could you do "x thing for me", then if the person comes back and done what you asked. You reward them. Much more fun, and bring the world to life rather than just people just training all the fudgeing time.

This has been done before and is fully endorsed by the dev team.

[bilbous]

I wonder if Xanacru was a friend of Kubla Kran.... which quest was he talking about anyway? Not all the NPC's are terribly polite nor need they be. If a character has thin skin (and not the kind non-kran have) then they should avoid rude npc's and refuse their quests. It is true that the npc's can be quite abusive when they do not understand what is being said to them.
Signed
One Mad Dobber!