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Yvask

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Kran Musings...
« on: July 01, 2007, 06:43:36 am »
So, I've been thinking while playing PS the last few days. PS is unlike any other RPG I've played in that they have the Kran, a race not based on Carbon. Albiet really nothing more than a Rock Golem (which are common in RPGs and Action games), the Kran seems to have a much neater description and history than a Golem. Because of this, I thought I'd write down some of my musings about the Kran race, especially since the game is still in development and the current racial descriptions are very vague. I know most of you have wondered about the reproduction of Krans, so I thought I'd take a stab at that first.

1. Kran gender and reproduction

Since it is stated explicitedly that Kran have no gender and reproduce entirely different than most races, this got me thinking. If any of you have wached Godzilla (the one from 2000) or Evolution, you've probably heard of A-Sexual reproduction. There's several species that do this, mostly small creatures, nothing major. The creature in question is able to impregnate itself and produce offspring identical to itself. In some cases, the creatue has no gender, but often they tend to be female. Therefore, in this scenario, all/most Krans are female!

Alternatively, it has been said that Talad (if I remember correctly) created the Kran. This would imply a magical process, which seems to contradict the very nature of the Kran, which is resistant to and generally not able to perform magic. To be created by the very process one is resistant to seems highly unlikely, so I'm ruling this one out.

There is a third scenario to Kran reproduction, but it is also unlikely since it would technically be possible for a half-breed Kran to exist. Maybe. Anyway, this method is a group of all female creature (take for example Clown Fish, as in Nemo). The females of the group are able to change gender on a need to breed basis. If there is a shortage of males in a population, several species are known to invert from female to male to fill the gap. It's blurry how this fits in with Kran, but the idea has been ringing around in my head.

2. Kran respitory system

There seems to be some contradiction between this. Planeshift's official description of the Kran state that they "breathe much more slowly than other races" but then that "they don't breathe so they can't drown". Both of these statements cannot be true, so here's some options I've thought of.

Kran do not breathe at all. They have no lung system and gain all energy from food. Unlikely to be from a source of magic.

Kran breathe very slowly, requiring little oxygen. This would likely promote lathargy in Krans, possible also an explination for why they are not very intelligent. Brain require a lot of power to run. However, if this is the case, Kran should not be able to live underwater, they would still need to draw oxygen from the enviornment.

Kran breath very slowly, requiring much nitrogen. Nitrogen is more common in the air, meaning they would need to breathe less to get more. Now why don't I work like that? The problem with this is that the PS description of Krans state that Silicon still supports oxygen bonds. Thus, nitrogen seems to be out in this case. But since when did we let the man(just poking) tell us how we're supposed to breathe?

Kran breathe through their skin. Oxygen most likely because in this scenario they would be able to draw oxygen straight from the water (I believe). The lack of nitrogen in water would suggest that the only viable option for this is oxygen.

3. Kran...veins?

PS states that Kran have "colored veins different from individual to individual". I'm thinking that these veins represent the veins in natural substances, such as marble veins. It's really a pattern. However, if these veins actually carry a fluid (thus carrying...oxygen? nitrogen? on them) why are they different colors? If Kran reproduce A-Sexually, there should be no difference in Kran skin coloring or otherwise. Of course, that makes for a very boring character, if you look like everyone else. My point being here that it is highly unlikely the biological differences in Kran would be so great as to have their veins work differently per person. Excuse me, per Kran. 

4. Kran ailments/intolerances

Ok, so here's a streach, again, from the movie Evolution (hey, it's a good movie). They determine that humans (carbon based) are intolerant of arsenic (3 down and 1 right on the periodic table). In theory, a silicon based life-form would be intolerant of antimony. Yeah, I've never heard of it either. http://www.corrosionsource.com/handbook/periodic/51.htm describes antimony as being used to harden lead and "was known as a metal at the beginning of the 17th century and possibly much earlier". That's actually fairly recent compared to the world PS seems to be set in (assuming it's actually on earth? I've always thought it was...but now I'm not so sure), so it's unlikely that a Kran would come into contact with antimony unless it happened to be combined with an ore or another metal to reinforce it. (Catching on? That's right, Kran specific poison blades).

Since Krans are evidently immune to poison and disease (which seems odd to me, why should a biological being be immune to anything?) and are magic resistant, it makes sense to assume there must be some sort of Kran specific ailment. Maybe flaking skin? I don't know, the point being Kran seem too resistant to me.

5. Humanoid form

Why, oh why, are we so vain as to assume that every intelligent being has two arms, a head, torso, and two legs? Every alien movie every has humanoid aliens. Every game has distant and strange races that look like humans in different colors. I mean, common! Even the Enki (which are cats) walk on two legs. If every race is going to look like a human, there should at least be some serious proportion changes. Krans maybe should have extra long arms, no neck, shorter legs (and therefore slower. A weakness!), extra wide shoulders, etc. Are you catching my drift on this one? I am glad that the Kran have no noses or ears however, it really helps (visually at least) distinguish them from other races. However, it's not much different than adding a horn or a tail. I think PS could really go all out on this one. Every race could be really unique.

6. Eating dirt

Kran, evidently, eat dirt. Basically. Sand, rocks, crystals, whatever. I'd really like to see some dirt sandwhiches and mud pies avaliabe for sale. I can't eat fish and apples.


That's all I've come up with for now. What do you guys think? Plausible theories? I'd love to hear your guys take on this, as well as theories on other races as well.

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Re: Kran Musings...
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 06:59:42 am »
Check the Kran question here, as well as the last question in this thread for some answers on Kran reproduction.

The Kran "veins" refer to the veins of the stone texture, not a biological, squishy inside :]
« Last Edit: July 01, 2007, 07:01:53 am by Karyuu »
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Re: Kran Musings...
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 07:05:41 am »
Right on, so I was right about A-Sexual reproduction. But how are they different colors then? Hmm...

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Re: Kran Musings...
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 07:14:41 am »
Kran come in four "vein" variety: turquoise, granite, sandstone, and marble.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 07:23:12 am »
Oh, what I was reffering to by color is the actual color of their skin. White, Azure and Pink are "appreciated". Does that mean rare, if so, is it biological, so only white Kran produce white Kran. Not to mention, why does my Kran have a mother and a father?

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Re: Kran Musings...
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 07:29:21 am »
The character creation doesn't customize itself for race or gender at the moment :)

But I'm not sure what you mean by color of the actual skin. I thought I answered that? The "pink" on the website is outdated - the four veins I've mentioned are the only official skins. Since Kran need no other partner to reproduce, it makes sense that they would only have Kranlings of their same vein.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2007, 07:31:06 am by Karyuu »
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 07:35:19 am »
Ah, my interpretation of http://www.planeshift.it/kran.html was that Kran have not only varying base skin color (which at the moment is blue in-game) but also varying vein color. If they are one and the same, then I understand. Any thoughts about how they breathe?

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Re: Kran Musings...
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 01:36:19 pm »
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Why, oh why, are we so vain as to assume that every intelligent being has two arms, a head, torso, and two legs?

Easier to normalize armour and weapons that way.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2007, 01:51:20 pm »
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Why, oh why, are we so vain as to assume that every intelligent being has two arms, a head, torso, and two legs?

Easier to normalize armour and weapons that way.

Hahaha, yes, I understand the mechanical rational to have all character fit the same bill. I'm just saying it would be wicked if it didn't have to be that way.  :sorcerer: <-wicked wizard.

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Re: Kran Musings...
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 08:47:04 pm »
First of all it's "asexual" not "a-sexual." 
Now, asexual doesn't necessarily mean that there's some sort of a female indvidual involved, that gets pregnant by itself.
It is a process most common among single cell organisms (such as bacteria).  They generally tend to reproduce by binary fission in which process they simply divide themselves into 2.  There's no pregnancy involved and it would be hard to call these organisms male or female.  However, binary fission is only one of the several types of asexual reproduction, there are many others and parthenogenesis, for example, does involve a female's egg developing without fertilization (plants, some fish) but I have yet to see a Kran lay an egg!  ;)  Krans are definitely asexual and they are also of no sex.


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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 03:22:47 am »
Jooba, in biology, the term "egg" often refers to the gamete produced by the female organism, however, its proper name is "ovum" ("ova" plural). With parthenogenesis, instead of having a haploid ovum, it is diploid and can directly undergo mitosis to produce an embryo. Theoretically, this can happen in any animal which reproduces sexually. And this is why happened to a small lizard, the females have developped parthenogenesis (when the males weren't around I guess), and now, there are no more males in this species of lizard. Also, since Kran do not have a gender and certainly do not produce gametes, parthenogenesis cannot occur in them.

Now, a Kran cannot undergo mitosis (cell division) since it is multicellular, the only way it could reproduce is by budding (the Kran would start having a growth somewhere, which would drop after a while and then develop into a new Kran), and perhaps sporogenesis (the Kran would create some kind of spore-like things which would spread, then some of those might grow in favourable conditions).



PS: In genetics, haploid means that is contains half the number of chromosomes, this happens in gametes (sperm  and ovum), this is why they have to fuse to form a diploid zygote.
PPS: In genetics, diploid means that is contains a full 2 sets of chromosomes. When this happens in an ovum, it therefore doesn't need to fuse with a sperm cell.
PPPS: Mitosis is when the cell replicates itself and produces to identical daughter cells.
PPPPS: Meiosis is when a cell replicates itself and produces four haploid daughter cells which are gametes.