misinformed GM's

[wither]

Tonight, a guildmate, which shall remain unnamed, was fighting in the arena.  While there were players "camping" on some NPC's she decided to kill them.  Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but there is nothing against the rules about this.  There have been discussions about this in the past on here, and it has been agreed, by the majority, that there is no such thing in game as kill stealing, though tonight my guild mate was accused of kill stealing. How can this be, since it mechanically not possible to steal a kill ingame???

Not only was my guild mate threatened with banning, but also sent to the DR, "has been struck down, let this be a lesson to all" kind of crap.  I think that GM's need to be put into their place with the use of that, since last time i saw that, there was a dispute between our guild and another, and while we were duelling at the entrance to the arena, a GM decided to do that same crap, "...has been struck down, let this be a lesson to all." 

In my experience in game, GMS are pretty useless with any type of major problem or question, perhaps GMs need to know more about the mechanics of the game and skills and so forth, because since when, is it a bannable offense, to kill an NPC, if a newb is camping it??? And since when, should a GM be allowed to interupt RP by striking down a character included in that RP??? 

I thought GMs were supposed to promote RP by hosting events, though i have never seen a GM event in my timezone, I have seen GMs interupting our own RP, and this should not be, so I hereby move, that, GMs be educated on what is and IS NOT allowed by a GM in terms of interupting RP, and also, I think, they need to be educated on what is possible within the mechanics of the game, hence kill stealing is NOT possible. 

[neko kyouran]

as this is only one side to the story, and probably not entirely accurate to what happened. (friend of a friend of a friend told me that.... syndrome) I shall lock to prevent the flames a coming.

If you have an issue with actions taken by the GM staff you should have followed proper procedure an taken it to the GM team leader.

GMs are some of the most well informed players of the game, most knowing more about the game than the normal players.

No one but the actual parties involved can really say what exactly went during those incidents. 

It's quite possible their were misunderstandings due to players not keeping their calm ans acting mature, or due to language barriers, but that can only be speculation.

[Kerol]

Good evening,

It has come to my attention that there are a few misunderstandings which should be clarified.

#1 There is a rule about killstealing. (quote from http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21538.0)

"Killstealing"

    * Nobody owns an NPC spawn point, and nobody owns any attackable NPC unless they have already engaged it in combat!
    * Taking an NPC from someone when they have already started any form of combat is considered kill stealing and will be punishable by GMs through warnings, and then further actions if the player continues.
   

Please notice that the term "killstealing" is only refering to the act of abusing a bug to intercept an engaged fight of someone else with an NPC.

However, what is NOT put into the Players Guide as an additional paragraph (since it is considered already covered by it which obviously isn't understood that way by some people)
is the fact that - quoting from the internal GM policies detailing problems around player *harassment* (not kill stealing) -

[...]approaching a camped spawn point and just taking engaging the camped monster is wrong. These people should be treated like kill stealers (i.e. warning, repeated offenders should get kicked or banned, see above).
If the approaching character asks to be grouped with the camping people, and they accept, well then there's no problem. However if they refuse, there's no reason why they should not be allowed to compete with the people that were there before them. No one "owns" a monster, until they fight it.  Being the late arrival and taking away the monster from those who waited longer certainly is not nice, but it is also not forbidden. Basic difference between the two points: The camping person/party should at least be given the chance to group the new arrival or to refuse to group. Bottom line: Just barging in is forbidden, not being accepted into a group and then competing for a spawn is not.

#2

while we were duelling at the entrance to the arena, a GM decided to do that same crap, "...has been struck down, let this be a lesson to all."

There is no such command for GMs.
What you experienced was the automatic spam prevention system (that also acts against repeated challenges).


Personal opinion about that case:
A bit more research on rules (specifically harassment) and ingame mechanics would have helped before accusing anyone.


Greetings,
Kerol