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rtrentc

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Linked quests & no quest deletion
« on: July 19, 2007, 02:14:43 am »
First off, this complaint is about how things that don't pose a problem on their own, are a problem together.

1) Because of the way that the quest system is setup, you don't want to have more than 1 quest running at a time.
2) Because of another problem, that of non repeatable quests you changed it so that we can't discard a quest anymore.
3) Some quests require that you complete a second or third quest in order to finish the first.
4) Since some quests are linked, if you don't find out about the second quest to finish the first, you are stuck with a quest that you cannot complete.

Now maybe I missed a clue somewhere, but in the case of Hiacheius's lost golden shield diagram, I was told that I had to go and see Canyt Klannarr and get a quest from her in order to finish the first. Now if another player hadn't told me that I don't know if I would have ever managed to finish the quest. Like I said there may have been a clue that I missed, but in all that I did I never saw anything to point me in that direction. And since its known that having more than one quest open at a time can cause problems I wouldn't have gone around asking for quests in the hopes that I would find a solution to the quest I was working on.

Now, I propose the following solution.
1) In the case of linked quests, change them from being two or more separate quests to just one continuous quest. This way the person would still have to find each of the npc's and perform the needed tasks for the quest, but they wouldn't be constantly thinking, do I need to break the 1 quest rule and take on a new quest to finish the old quest. And in the idea of linked quests I am referring primarily to quests that give you a reward thats used to finish the previous quest. In the cases where one quest unlocks another quest this wouldn't be a problem cause you would only have one quest open at a time.
2) Allow the discarding of repeatable quests.
3) Keep a lock on non repeatable quests so that you can't delete them.

Thats my rant for the day.
Robert T Childers.

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Re: Linked quests & no quest deletion
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2007, 02:20:27 am »
I believe the aimed solution is:
4) Fix the bug that causes conflicts between multiple quests.
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Re: Linked quests & no quest deletion
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2007, 04:26:24 pm »
Seems to me an easy temporary solution would be to post a list of broken quests in this forum so that they could be avoided until repaired, thus averting conflicts with other quests.  I doubt there are so many broken quests, nor repairs occurring so often that this would be a problem keeping up to date. 

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Re: Linked quests & no quest deletion
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2007, 04:36:08 pm »
Quests that have conflicts are very different from broken quests, and while we have an idea about exactly why quests conflict, we're not sure. Suffice to say that two quests containing the same NPC at one point have a possibility of conflicting. If they're completely separate from one another NPC-wise, they won't, and you can *probably* take them on simultaneously safely. If you're sure they don't, i.e. you've done them before with an alt, then by all means. But if you're new to questing and don't know who's in what, I don't recommend it.

Posting a list of quests that might be in conflict would be nearly impossible, seeing as there are over a hundred NPCs, each with at least one quest, and in some cases as many as a dozen.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2007, 04:37:46 pm by Jeraphon »

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Re: Linked quests & no quest deletion
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 08:14:14 pm »
Draklar is right.  My goal is to fix the bug, not to find new ways of blocking players from doing perfectly normal things to hide a weakness in our engine.

rtrentc

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Re: Linked quests & no quest deletion
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 04:40:02 pm »
Here is a question for you.  What if on the uncompleted display of the quest book, you put check boxes by each quest so that even though a person had more than one quest open at a time, he could select which quest is active when talking to the npc's. Would this take care of the multiple quests interference problem.

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Re: Linked quests & no quest deletion
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 04:01:02 am »
rtentc actually not the worst idea under heaven i am sure vengeance will consider it.