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Xyitan Nolas

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You cannot /unstick at this time.
« on: July 27, 2007, 08:30:00 pm »
I've been seeing that message quite a bit recently, and it has been forcing me into the death realm far too often. While I respect that Planeshift is :beta:, it annoys me to no end that every bug that I used to be able to /unstick my way out of is now just as fatal as the "fall off the edge of the world" bugs. Why is this happening? Is it a coincidence that it is happening at the same time as the NPCclient being down?

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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2007, 09:38:19 pm »
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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2007, 10:24:13 pm »
 :thumbdown:

Yes, I did read that. From my point of view it seems that you didn't. While the second to last paragraph states it would be the easiest "fix", the last implies that it will not be done. If that is the reason however, words can not describe my fury at being punished for somebody elses misdeeds.


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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 10:34:20 pm »
You have to wait about 15 seconds I think, then you can use /unstick. It was added to prevent abuse /unstick, e.g. jumping from cliffs and use it.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2007, 10:36:23 pm by Bepules »

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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2007, 01:21:59 am »
While it would technically classify as "abuse" to prevent death from falling off cliffs, or the end of the world, (at least those caused by deficiencies of the movement system, like when it keeps on running even if you let go of the key) by using /unstick, I believe the real abuse that caused this change was the behaviour that Kerol mentioned in the linked to post (where the use of /unstick is, IMO, the less severe abuse compared to the unreachable spellcaster trick), and the avoiding of damage when in a fight.
This is just as abusive as using /die to warp from the BD to Hydlaa, or even to Ojaveda in case of an Enkidukai. I seem to be the only one who's stupid enough to actually run back each time.
Maybe it would be an option to allow the use of /die only once every RL hour, or even only once a day. This is IMNSHO justified since /die hardly sees any non-abusive use, ever. Of course, that wouldn't prevent people from just jumping off a cliff. :(

As far as being punished for other people's wrongdoings goes... indeed it is exactly that. However, it emphasizes something that people conveniently ignore and which causes a great deal of the damage to society we see every day, IRL: lack of social checking, or courage. People see others doing things they know are wrong and that are unacceptable, yet they don't bother to even try to change it. In PS, this is much much easier and involves much smaller risk than IRL, so it's inexcusable that people don't bother protecting their game from the abusers. So you are in fact being punished for your very own neglect of your social responsibility. >:(
Sending a simple /tell to the abuser is an option, just don't be the silent majority. If they become singled out, they'll stop.

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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2007, 09:52:13 pm »
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/die hardly sees any non-abusive use, ever
that's simply not true! Just some days ago, I got stuck in the hills of ojaroad, and when I used unstick, I just ended up at the same point again without being able to move. I used /die and again tried to travel through Ojaroad and got stuck again, in another hill. It was annoying enough, having to run through death realm for nothing two times, it would be even worse if you had to wait half a day for it. :thumbdown:

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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2007, 03:58:30 am »
One of my trainers resides there in the Death Realm.  There are books to be read, and of course, one should check regularly to see if there are new books or other learning to be had.

Perhaps it is my kran nature; sometimes I wish to visit the Death Realm and take it in, not as a thoroughfare to be quickly negotiated, but as my intended destination.  It is a curious and interesting place.

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As for getting stuck...yes, I get stuck at some point nearly every time I play, and while /unstick doesn't work all the time, it (used to) work often enough that I've been quite inconvenienced by having to /die instead.

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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2007, 07:33:15 am »
first up I have never had a problem with unstick accept for the time I was being chased by an Ulbernaught and the only way to freedom was bugged every time I hit unstick I jumped back to the ulbernaughts deathly attack.  I did however wonder if logging off the game would reset you back to a movable position when you reenter?? Having never been in a position to have this problem.
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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2007, 12:42:21 pm »
I seem to be the only one who's stupid enough to actually run back each time.

Nah, you're not the only one. Although I have to admit that when I'm being forced on long runs by the way the game is set up but which my character would normally not do. For example if I can only get rid of some items in a certain city (since dumping them isn't good for the game's performance) then I'm making OOC travels and occasionally do use the /die shortcut. But in character I never will. Heck I'm even stupid enough to walk that whole distance instead of running it.
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Re: You cannot /unstick at this time.
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2007, 01:17:05 pm »
Hello!

I seem to be the only one who's stupid enough to actually run back each time.

No, you are not alone. I prefer a nice walk at the fresh air through the beautiful landscape everytime to this depressing Death Realm. Every sane character would.
Although I consider the timeout of the latest "/unstick" annoying I don't see any better solution preventing misuse at the moment. After the time has elapsed the command has worked fine for me so far. And I had to use the command quite often because I'm a nosy fenki. I didn't have to use the command "/die" yet, so I can't confirm that "curiosity kills the cat".  ;D

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