GM intervening with RP

[Coneitic]

heres a nice topic i'd like to discuss and maybe give some insight to the devs thoughts and our own.

Why is the Gm ability so limited? if this game is geared towards quest AND rp then shouldnt the gms have more than the ablity to teleport kick and ban? if a good rp is going on that is acceptable and fun for all players and really gives a chance for new and old players to get involved and enjoy. not saying a planned event necessarily but say a sponaneous one, shouldnt the gm have some options to increase the rp?

in hindsight it would be helping to encourage and push people to rp inbetween quest without taking away from the grind part of the game right?

say someones at the fountain denounce gods.. lol.. persay... would a simple kick/slay/telport really encourage more role play? or maybe a figure posseses the body or say monsters spawn or say the statue moves. something more creative.. it would just encourage more rp right? i dont know hit me back with your responses i'll respond to those and we'll kick off another episode of crossfire.

ps. should i have saved this for the list?

[Xordan]

Well, some GM's do have more powers which are geared towards RP. However, they're only really used during 'official' game events afaik.

[Karyuu]

Events with GMs must be approved so that 1) rewards given out can be judged fair by the higher ups, and 2) their actions are not out of line with the settings. Not every roleplay players embark on, no matter how wonderful they may judge it to be, is something the GMs would endorse.

[bilbous]

Why would a GM need to respond to someone slagging the gods unless perhaps it was distracting from an event they were trying to run?

[Duraza]

ps. should i have saved this for the list?

GMs being able to join into random rps that start and help to make them more intresting...yes should have been on the list.

From what I've heard (I might be wrong) gm's aren't supposed to do that because when they become involved in some rps but not others it shows favoritism to certain characters. To avoid that they don't allow their specific gm characters to interfere with rps. They are allowed to use a regular character to be in rps, the only problem is that without the gm powers they can't do as much to promote an rp as they could with the gm powers. Really a confusing topic...Maybe make special rp gms who are only around to help with rps that appear as long as they are in the settings? I mean really who wouldn't get involved in an rp if they saw the character with the yellow letters on top of their head reading "Game Masters" helping out? Whether the tag is OOC or not it does attract peoples attention regardless.

[Coneitic]

im not talking about rewards or somewhat messing with settings persay. moreso like random things that can be triggard by good rp. a weapon or armor or item is nice for a gm event. but to alot of people getting their rp that has grown acknowledged by a gm and helped a little to further it is the the best reward possible. it would encourage people to want to rp. and not just big rps either. maybe a gm or too can walk around town as an alt and find rpers and help along not always using commands they have just on some occasions when they feel it can further and better the rp. it doesnt even have to be known who did it or why or what the gm did. tho sometimes it might be obvious. just a small step to encourageing rp.... arg lol my list its dwindling. ok you all can respond im not responding till the list is made... and reviewed... and critisised... and dismissed lol

[Karyuu]

If they do it using alts, and they don't use GM commands, how is that different from a regular player going around encouraging RP? What do you need the GM for?

[Coneitic]

well i guess come commands would be neccessary. but then it would come down to gms helping rp in turn the game is helping people rp not just leaving it on the players shoulders... there i go again responding lol

[Karyuu]

You're going to have to be more specific with what you want the GMs to do.

[Duraza]

If they do it using alts, and they don't use GM commands, how is that different from a regular player going around encouraging RP? What do you need the GM for?

I'm still going to go with the yellow banners on top of the players head. I know its really OOC but the fact is look at gm events. They see the yellow banners and players just run towards the event to find out whats going on. If a gm did the same using an alt would anyone really care? Yes but not that many. Its all the fact that gm characters are seperated from the others. When rping with someone with that banner you suddenly feel like your doing something important instead of just being in some PC's rp who can only do the same things as you.  

You're going to have to be more specific with what you want the GMs to do.

Well I'd say it would have to do with the rp your talking about. Maybe someone is trying to steal from another outside of Hydlaa. Maybe a gm thief would appear and make rogues spawn around the player getting attacked. It would make a gms job a lot more which is why I say that they should have the freedom to do it but not make it a job.

[Earl_Listbard]

You're going to have to be more specific with what you want the GMs to do.

That would be cool like, when con was in the plaza bashing laanx, if laanx suddenly appeared infront of con, and said something like "So, you wish to take my power, mortal?... try it."

And then everyone would instantly have more fearful respect for laanx once laanx laid down the law... thus some people would be inspired to make a laanx follower guild and in a way re-create the vespers... and then maybe more new comers would become better rpers... yay!.... all that from the gms help by showing that the previously thought impossible is possible, like laanx actually appearing... im sure a gm can change their name to laanx, use a male lemur model, and boost their stats, and then appear infront of con... its easy...


GMs should join rps that deal with the law, or gods... and they need to be big, how big? like when a crowd is gathered, then the law/gods need to take action to defend themselves.

[Karyuu]

The gods do not interact with the world directly.

[Earl_Listbard]

The gods do not interact with the world directly.

mmm, point made, well how about the law?


Many horrible crimes happen in hydlaa, I know because I comit many of them. Though if a huge crime to happen allow me to refferance the swiping of the laanx scrolls from the temple, couldn't such a big player made event like that call upon hydlaa guards? [one or two game masters dressed as guards?]

sure its not an event, but wouldn't that add to the sense that the guards watch over the citizens when a big problem arises?

[neko kyouran]

the problem, and why they need approval before they can act, is that the GMs represent the project.  Every action they do, sets a precedence for the game.  If they do something to further a RP, that does not fall with in the guidelines dictated down to them by the higher ranking officials, their actions cause a mess to the continually of the settings and headaches to the people that have to then try to patch up what happened.

hence, only pre-approved events are allowed to have the "yellow-bannered" characters in them.

[Aerianna Kzin]

then maybe they should come up with more approved GM events..there really are't that many...and we are not asking for rewards or anything we just want to engourage more roleplay lately we have lots a lot of good members for diffrent reasons which we dont need to get into, and we have so many new people joining and all they do is quest and mine and turn gold in to ingots and sell and get more so they can level up.  you guys are doing a GREAT job dont get me worng, its just now that you have focused so hard on the quets and the training and evertyhing what about the people who hate questing or powerleveling and just want to roleplay? the gm's when they are on are on as invisable anyways so we dont see thier tags or them anyways I think Coneitic is saying maybe they can take over and impersionate some of the NPC's at random, I have been around harnquist a time or two when he starts to talk and respond to the players and that's great! Its alot of fun and it encourages others to role play as well.