OOC: Hydlaa Rebillion

[Suvok]

[Correct me if I am wrong, but this seems like a very hard RP to pull off. You know, with the gods not being around and all that. Suvok is confuzzled as to what this entails.]

[Zan]

(I'm assuming this isn't just as an uprising of Atheism, people fighting the organised religion in Yliakum and claiming the gods don't exist.

Instead this seems to be a group who actually wants to fight the gods, they acknowledge to exist ... in that case, I agree with Suvok. This RP is doomed to fail, either because of a lack of opposition or OOC squabbling.

What I'm afraid of though, especially from Coneitic ... is that this whole ordeal is an OOC attack on the Devs, disguised as poorly set up IC RP )

[Coneitic]

LOL

you too make me laugh. this wasnt even my idea. i knew if my name was in it i would be doomed to fail. guess i need to make an alt.

you guys dont even understand... atheism? we believe fully in the gods and their powers.  way to encourage rp. i knew this would all lead to personal attacks. what you dont understand... is that i fully understand the difference from IC and OOC.  and if you can catch me making that mistake.... i'll paypal you 20 dollars. and i stand by that fully.  what is so hard to pull off? a revolt against the gods? ya thats a tuffy. leading others to belive what we believe... god .. and you just proved to me that you cannot distinguish ooc from ic. so way to go..... personal opinions effecting your charactor... bad rp FTW!!!!!!!

duraza.. gwinn... i'll drop out of this rp, sorry but now people are just going to take my opinions in real life and transfer them to coneitic. good luck and maybe i'll aid you with an alt.. guess coneitic has to die. maybe this is why UTM goes through so many alts.

[ No attacking anyone on this forum. --Karyuu ]

[Karyuu]

[ I wonder just how IC it is to shout about training and quests in the plaza. ]

[Xordan]

[I'd love to join in as a God and smite all your characters back to pre-creation ]

[Duraza]

[Sorry have had computer problems so I haven't been able to get online for a couple days.

(I'm assuming this isn't just as an uprising of Atheism, people fighting the organised religion in Yliakum and claiming the gods don't exist.

Instead this seems to be a group who actually wants to fight the gods, they acknowledge to exist ... in that case, I agree with Suvok. This RP is doomed to fail, either because of a lack of opposition or OOC squabbling.

What I'm afraid of though, especially from Coneitic ... is that this whole ordeal is an OOC attack on the Devs, disguised as poorly set up IC RP )

Its really a combination...We agree that all the gods do exist but we don't believe in the powers they have, that they are truely "immortal." Read the link and the post that are there about a book "supposedly" written by a god named Tiren (I do know there is no real Tiren is PS). That should help to show you insight on our beliefs. That anything the gods can do can be done by mortals if we can find the right key to it in magic. And no this isn't an ooc attack from Coneitic, this rp came from some of my past thoughts and was combined with some of Gwinn and Coneitic's ideas.

duraza.. gwinn... i'll drop out of this rp, sorry but now people are just going to take my opinions in real life and transfer them to coneitic. good luck and maybe i'll aid you with an alt.. guess coneitic has to die.

If you can't aid us its no problem Coneitic. We will just have to carry on without you 

[I'd love to join in as a God and smite all your characters back to pre-creation ]

Catch me if you can  ]

[Waylander]

Think you owe Karyuu 20 bucks there, Coneitic.

[Coneitic]

training and quest arent IC? you dont see a trainer to train skills? you dont go on quest IC? are you serious? so quest and training is all OOC? wow... are we playing the same game... you guys should download planeshift and try it.

[Karyuu]

You go on a quest IC, but "quest" itself is an OOC word in many cases. When you're shouting something about throwing down your quests, you're making it seem very much like an OOC game term - people don't go on "quests" for one another unless it involves a long and arduous journey. People do tasks for each other, run messages, etc. Besides, just how logical is it to tell people to give up training? Characters train themselves because their lifestyles demand it. A hunter practices her stealth and agility. A mercenary practices his swordmanship. A mage studies to unlock greater powers. So when you shout that people should stop doing this, it makes absolutely no sense.

*edited to add*

"Are these just gods? many have spilled blood on my dagger, my sacks full of trias from victums, yet i see no justice? I stand before you today free of prosecution, free of fear."

Maybe you should keep this to yourself - the gods may not strike you directly, but plenty of lawful people in Yliakum would be very happy to take justice into their own hands at your daring. Why should they listen to someone who has killed and stolen, and is evidently unafraid of shouting this in the plaza of Yliakum's capitol? 

[Coneitic]

what is so wrong about selling people propaganda? because it doesnt work well with your idea of an rp? i guess i dont get it, everyone refer's to them as quest IC or OOC... always have. i say stop training yourself because ultimately you will turn it on your fellow citizens.. is that so wrong to say? instead of looking at things from outside the game look at them from inside the game. Coneitic walks around the plaza seeing people running back and forth and talking about finishing quest for certain trainers and merchants. he sees people fighiting rouges to practice moves and styles people learned from a trainer. he thinks this is just a maze the gods put us through to ammuse them. i dont understand how you guys can possible not see how this is rp. its all spoken and done through the eyes of our charactors... and now im not even in it.

and i'll stand in that plaza all day with auto accept on and yell this stuff. you know why? because know one cares anymore. they are worried about their quest or their life, or whos their next girlfriend in game. lol i spoke that to many and not one cared to seek justice. and whatever happend to telling stories.. i might have been lying just to feed the people reasons to listen more?

you really should get in the game and rp more karyuu.

[Waylander]

Coneitic.  I agree completely.

Recently my character has gotten confused by the names hovering over people.  They are ingame so, they must be IC, right?
And by these different ways to talk.  And how he can hear what seem to be whispers from miles away.  /tells are ingame, so, they must be IC right?

You said throw down your trade skills
I'm pretty sure saying "reject your cars" qualifies as more IC than that

[Coneitic]

what?


trade skills are ooc? you dont have a trade in the game? you dont have skills in the game? if your trade is mining and you have the skill thats ooc?

once again you guys are pro at taking single words and lines and turning the whole paragraph into it.

im going to stop talking now.. your last replay really shows your intellegence and ability to comprehend what you read. maybe this is why all the great rpers stopped reading the forums. with the exception of maybe 2.

most people use /tells as IC..... "/me leans in and whispers in *name's* ear"

thats a little to much for you to comprehend tho, maybe in a few years. if i talk to someone in /tells its usually ooc... unless its an in charactor whisper.. but hey you know me better.

i say throw down my trade skill you and you say "reject your cars" is more IC?

lemme quote this exactly.

You said throw down your trade skills
I'm pretty sure saying "reject your cars" qualifies as more IC than that

i want everyone to see this and remember you said this. so that it may carry over to all your opinions on the game.

what i said....

Your devotion, your worship, your trade skills and quest, they mean nothing to the true power you posses."

guess you dont have trades in ps...

[Waylander]

...

I was being sarcastic, Connie.

"Your trade" would have been IC.

"Your job", "Your profession"  all would have been IC.

Your Trade skills, on the other hand is pretty OOC.

Quests are as Karyuu said, long and challenging journeys with goals.  The quest for the holy grail, for instance.  The quest to bring Brado two eyes is a job.

It's quite obvious you were talking about the OOC quest mechanic.

"I have seen the power of them and am not afraid, they only use our power against us! We are mere puppets in their play and the time for revolution has come"

I'm assuming you are talking about Laanx has shot down so and so in the plaza for such and such.  This is pretty OOC.  If you go through the settings you'll see very very little evidence of the gods using powers against people.

"We have the gods to blame for that," Coneitic says while holding his claymore.

This line just makes no sense.  Unless you are talking about the change in game mechanics?  That would be OOC.

"Your prayerss and ignorance to the so called quest and training only further their amusement."

How is that not talking about the game mechanics?

[Duraza]

Ok...I haven't been ingame because of computer problems so I don't know what exactly is going on with this rp but from the sounds of it you are taking Coneitic's previous posts about the game and its mechanics and trying to make it sound as if his rp is just repeating the same thing. Now I'm only going to say this once but please try to understand that this RP was in the making before Coneitic started the many threads about Questing and Game Mechanics and rp...I just did not have the right amount of people to actually start doing anything productive ingame without being by myself. Then Coneitic came (along with Gwinn) and they helped to put the RP into action. Yes the rp can easily be made to sound like an attack on the game, as I've heard many times. However if someone says they aren't attacking the game doesn't that mean they aren't? Can you really say that you know Coneitic is trying to make all that OOC stuff IC? Unless you are him or you can read minds I highly doubt it.

Why is trade skills OOC? Your skills at a certain trade? Thats all that phrase is saying. Yes its worded in a way that easily allows one to assume that he's talking OOC but does that mean its meant. Take a look at some of Coneitic's posts. Does he always word things in the most well thought out way? (And no offense to you Coneitic  ). As he even sometimes mentions he does not take the time to think of something, then go through and make it sound more acceptable. So what does that conclude? That possibly because he has all those other posts on his mind he's wording things in that way because its the first thing that comes to mind. I mean technically none of the things he said can't be taken ICly. You are just making a point to try and pick at any OOCness you can find in them.

As I said none of us can look into Coneitic's mind so none of us can say what hes doing. However if he says he isn't doing something than assume it so, its that simple. Also as I've said before if this rp bugs you then ignore it. Its better to deal with it in an IC manner for the fact that it still is IC then to complain about it OOCly because of arguments that happened in the past.

[Waylander]

I haven't read most of Connies posts about game mechanics.

The only way that I see this as not being an attack to the game mechanics is if Connie is playing a very ignorant and, to be fair, stupid character.
Otherwise, it's looking very much like it's OOC.