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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #225 on: September 19, 2008, 02:46:16 am »
"The Dome has a total diameter (hole included) of 50 km, and the floor is about 10 km wide. Thus, the surface area is about 1257 square km." -ingame book

Plenty of room for a small lake with an island the size of Hydlaa in the middle.

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #226 on: September 19, 2008, 06:17:15 pm »
That Book is so vague that the diametr could be as well 40 or 60km and the floor ring be 5 or 15km wide. The IC author kinda proves his mathematical impotency ;p

But still enough room for that
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« Reply #227 on: September 19, 2008, 10:06:14 pm »
Check your math.

50km diameter total (note where it says total, being the sum of all sub parts, being the hole, and the floor on both sides). That can not be seen as anything other than 50km diameter total. Not 40. Not 60. 50km.

Floor is about 10km wide. This obviously says the floor is 10km wide, from rim to wall. Not 10 km total of both sides. Just 10.

So:

Wall ((Floor: 1 to 10=10km ((Hole: 10 to 40=30km dia circle)) Floor: 40 to 50=10KM) Wall.

Total area of the dome, hole included, is about 1962.5 square km. The hole is about 706.5 square km. 1962.5 - 706.5 = 1256 square km.

I guess you are right. The author is off by 1 square km. Total fail. ;)


         
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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #228 on: September 19, 2008, 11:12:50 pm »
Wait... That's a lot smaller than I thought the Dome would be. You sure it's 10 km?

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #229 on: September 19, 2008, 11:20:03 pm »
100% Sure. Going from the Winch to the Eagle would be about 10km as the eagle flies. Yliakum is not -extremely- large if compared to Real life area.

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #230 on: September 19, 2008, 11:50:14 pm »
I was actualy referring to what it was before the book got changed to reflect what is expected in game. And a book as whole, not specifically what UtM quoted.
I have pointed out few mathematical flaws with the content of the book before and I'm happy to see it got fixed \o/ Well, removed.
I do know math UtM, and we know you do too ;D
And i need to write a correction: The IC author of the Yliakum Georgaphy is no longer mathematical im.. since the bugfix!



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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #231 on: September 20, 2008, 01:01:28 am »
Roled approaches this forum with a bit of trepidation, after reading higher mathematical theorems of which he is unaware. He scratches his shin, and writes, in a surprisingly fair hand.

Greetings Friends. In running errands to earn tria, I hear some bemusing statements from townsfolk. Of course, now I be forgetting most, but here be one only.

When talking to Kaimen Jilatt in the Plaza, he tells me he can train me in Argan. So, being a seeker of all knowledge, I turn over the price of tuition. Then when I ask the fellow, what be Argan? (I usually say "about Argan" so he won't be confused by my accent) he says he has no idea what I am talking about. Don't that seem strange to ye?

Thankee for listening.
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Ay, I remembered another! When talking to Durok in the library, kra says"I study plants, wildlife and insects..." among other things. When I ask kra about several plants {Tell me about... name of plant} kra doesn't recognize any of them. Now that seems strange, since kra studies these plants.
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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #232 on: October 22, 2008, 08:45:48 am »
Not sure the dev. team will consider these as inconsistencies, but some names have been bugging me for a while, and here are 2:
- platinum: Scientific Latin to make us picture a modern metal not used the way gold or silver are used. The metal dug IG could have a better name, more fantasy oriented.
- carrion crawler: with all the effort put in the creation of an original fauna, that locution sounds odd, familiar, DnDesque.

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #233 on: October 25, 2008, 07:34:16 pm »
Read in Jayose library: "Attyr - a marine mammal found in rivers".
Marine is for the sea, not the river; should be aquatic (is there a sea in Yliakum?)

Also, one can sell a tin stock for 100 tria, and a tin lingot for 11 tria (thus 10 lingots for 110 tria).

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #234 on: October 25, 2008, 08:00:04 pm »
Stick to settings inconsistencies, please! :)

Also, one can sell a tin stock for 100 tria, and a tin lingot for 11 tria (thus 10 lingots for 110 tria).

this is not the place to report balance issues

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #235 on: October 26, 2008, 03:32:47 am »
- platinum: Scientific Latin to make us picture a modern metal not used the way gold or silver are used. The metal dug IG could have a better name, more fantasy oriented.
By that logic we should do away with steel, silver and gold. They make us think of real world metals rather than fansasy ones.
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #236 on: October 26, 2008, 03:53:06 am »
- platinum: Scientific Latin to make us picture a modern metal not used the way gold or silver are used. The metal dug IG could have a better name, more fantasy oriented.
By that logic we should do away with steel, silver and gold. They make us think of real world metals rather than fansasy ones.

Well, PlaneShift is also supposed to have unique races, and yet we have typical races like humans, elves, and dwarves.  It's a little of column A, a little of column B.

It's a mess, but we love it anyway. :)  If "fun" is a bigger priority than "originality", I can't complain too much.
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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #237 on: October 26, 2008, 03:56:27 am »
My point exactly.
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #238 on: October 26, 2008, 06:03:35 am »
this is not the place to report balance issues

 :oops:  My apologies; what qualifies as Settings is not obvious to every player.

By that logic we should do away with steel, silver and gold. They make us think of real world metals rather than fansasy ones.

 :offtopic: Steel, silver and gold are English, not kitchen Latin words, and are not modern metals. I'm not talking about real world nonsense, but about medieval flavor. Platinum (everywhere abbreviated into the ugly "plat"; that's a sign) is as immersive a name as uranium would be.

Anyway, I won't argue in this thread anymore. It's a place for posting apparent oddities, of which the dev team is the judge.

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Re: The Great inconsistency hunt is on!
« Reply #239 on: October 26, 2008, 01:44:38 pm »
At the end of a quest, we can read in purple:
-Loren gives you three hexa.-
If I'm not mistaken (it is not logged), the green system msg says "You have received 300 tria".
So maybe the purple text should refer to six octa ?



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