Religion.

[Suvok]

Dalat claimed to be the thousand year old son of Talad, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, he said he was his son, grown from 'the soil of Talad'
But there was too many holes in his argument to go on with him.

The settings highlights that there is no established theory about the creation of Yliakum apart from that of the two gods, Laanx and Talad.
This is very similar to medieval times, when there were no other theories than the Earth being created in seven days by God. Because of this, religion was taken as fact and the bible was not questioned. The select few that questioned the faith were considered sinners and outcasts, religion governed medieval life. However, in Yliakum, most characters do not believe in the gods, yet this situation is very similar to the Medieval period. This is supposed to be a medieval fantasy. I think there should be more god-fearing characters around to promote a bit more realism.

[Zan]

I agree with Suvok ... but the problem is that in reality, we players are generally not so religious anymore so it's very tricky to play religious characters. Personally I never minded a challenge though

[zanzibar]

Yeah, he said he was his son, grown from 'the soil of Talad'
But there was too many holes in his argument to go on with him.

But he was too persistant to ignore, especially with all the OOC reminders like Dalat says: [You don't have to believe this character if you don't want to!]

[Draklar]

Draklar is a nature worshipper I guess. Doesn't feel presence of Talad or Laanx.

If I actually had time to play PS I would probably create a fanatic of Laanx character... Waylander should see that one coming ;)

[Suvok]

Yeah, he said he was his son, grown from 'the soil of Talad'
But there was too many holes in his argument to go on with him.

But he was too persistant to ignore, especially with all the OOC reminders like Dalat says: [You don't have to believe this character if you don't want to!]

Yeah, it was pretty annoying how i'd get about 5 /tells at once telling me that I couldn't do this and that it was against the settings. But I mostly kept the OOC reminders to /tells.

[Waylander]

Draklar is a nature worshipper I guess. Doesn't feel presence of Talad or Laanx.

If I actually had time to play PS I would probably create a fanatic of Laanx character... Waylander should see that one coming

And he would be awesome, I'm sure

Many people don't seem to think there is enough of a setting, examples of this are (not pointing fingures, of course) Printh, Dark Empire, Vaalnor and Duraza's book (if he means it to be not a fake, which I doubt).  And yet, much of the setting is completely ignored.

A good 75% of people should be very religious.  All of the Lemurs, Xacha and Kran.  Only Klyros and Diaboli seem to be justifiably atheistic.

Discuss!

[Coneitic]

if your born into a catholic family. does that mean you will practice the faith forever?\


if the books say there is a god, does that mean you will believe?

if someone says they are the son of talad, does that mean they are going against settings?

1. no
2. no
3. not in the least bit.

[Draklar]

if your born into a catholic family. does that mean you will practice the faith forever?\

Usually yes.
Sometimes you'll change faith into another.
On rare occassions you'll denounce all the gods.

All the same one born into atheist family may become religious.

90% of population in my country was baptised Catholic; 80% of the population is considered to be practising Catholics.
All the rest is usually different faiths, while amount of atheists is minimal. Much depends on the influence a Church takes and the mentality of the population.
Let's just remind ourselves the mentality of Yliakum's people is that of the middle ages, not modern times. Let's remind ourselves that the population has wide access to magic, which opens their eyes to the supernatural. Let's remind ourselves that the temple of Talad tends to spawn strange phenomena, considered to be miracles and available for anyone to see.

Waylander's 75% still stands as a valid estimation.

[Nikodemus]

It's kind of hard to not believe in Talads existence, looking at the temple he built all by himself.

On a side note: Draklar, i think you are overtrusting the statistics ;P

[Draklar]

It's not overtrusting if it can be backed up by closer observations.

[Nikodemus]

* Nikodemus still disagrees ;P

[Coneitic]

i know a great deal of people now adays that denounce gods. especially catholics. seeing as how its a very bad religion. but we wont get into that now.

and u say take it back to  midevil times. what about jesus? he did miracles in front of peoples eyes. and people still denounced him as the son of god. well that was before midevil times. so lets speed things up. remember the dark ages? how many people you think put their faith and believe there was a god when times were so unbearable. then you have the renaissance  where man.. god god fixed the problems and brought mankind into a whole new era of a better life a better time.

you think people still believed in god during this? after witnessing the horrible times of the darkages and then seeing the only chance at a greater time was in the hands of man?


magic is not proof of gods. its supernatural, but its powers harnessed  by the world we live in.

[Nikodemus]

they denouced, because they had their own gods to believe in and because of that he obviously couldn't be the gods son.

There your character(?) believs and worships no gods, but he denies the knowledge of theirs existence. Its completly different matter.

Besides the example you gave maybe isn't real at all.

[Coneitic]

its an example. of how people react to situations. not everyone blindly follows. and most give up hope when there is no hope. especially when there parents and their grandparents and their great grandparents died a miserable life with no hope.

i forget how long but the dark ages lasted quite some time.

my situation was not what i was talking about. it was more about all religion in Yliakum. and my character didnt deny the existence and he believed in the gods. he blamed them for the problems we faced. which is why he turned on them.

and i dont know who claimed to be talads son but. all i stated was it wasnt against the settings. people do lie. and to have a world without lies isnt a world.

[Draklar]

remember the dark ages? how many people you think put their faith and believe there was a god when times were so unbearable.

Quite a lot considering otherwise you had to deal with holy inquisition (granted, this relates more to the middle ages than dark ages) and alike fun stuff.
In general the medieval times were ones when people richly believed in magic, monsters and gods. The Church also had a great control over the life of commoners.
When times are unbearable people turn to gods in order to find help or reason for their suffering.

During times of Jesus people didn't denounce gods. They simply didn't feel like approving new one when they already had their own. Especially since this new god portrayed their own as false idols. He was also rejected from political reasons (the new god didn't aprove the godly nature of Roman emerors).  That Jesus made miracles isn't even an argument, since it's a matter of belief.

Edit: Dark Ages lasted for 5 centuries. From fifth to tenth.