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Unnamed_Source

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The low worth of stock
« on: August 17, 2007, 03:28:20 pm »

            Silver     Gold     Iron/Steel      Coal
Raw         64        240         2                1

Ingot       169       608        13               X

Stock      680        **          60               X

These are the current prices of  Raw Materials sold to the NPCs. there is an inconsistency between what you get per ingot vs what you get for the stock. Except for smithing, stock making is a rip off. Since currently, smithing is only doable with steel/iron, there is no reason to make stock for resale.

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It takes 10 Iron/Steel ingots to make a stock piece. The ingots are worth in total of 130(10*13) where the stock with the equivelant number of ingots is worth only 60.

It takes 5 Silver ingots to make a silver stock. 5*169= 845-680 = 165 tria proffit loss for stock vs individual ingots.

Stock should not only be worth the equivelent of the number of ingots it takes to make it BUT it should be worth more, since it takes a higher level of metallurgy to produce stock vs producing ingots.

**Can't comment about gold yet.

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Re: The low worth of stock
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 07:20:38 am »
I was told the price from a npc for gold stock is 2440 which is 600 lower than what you would get if you made 5 ingots instead.
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Re: The low worth of stock
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 01:50:58 pm »
 Well, that's quite true. I don't know if that's a problem though, as NPC market and player market are two different realities. So what actually matters for the player is what market dominates the good he wants information about? Gold is undoubtedly dominated by the NPC market, as it's and end product with no use. But steel, as an unfinished product with use to the crafters, it belongs to the player market, in which it's price goes around 2000 trias (making each iron and coal piece be around 200 trias).

 I guess the way to solve it would be: in reality, what has more of the product? Do five gold ingots have more gold than a gold stock? Cause that's what you're buying, right? The quantity of the good (I'd add quality, but that doesn't matter at all for the NPC market, and in steel stock has little relevancy) and not the effort someone had doing it.

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Re: The low worth of stock
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2007, 05:28:27 pm »
don't forget that stock can be made into stuff that is worth more then the stock itself
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Re: The low worth of stock
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2007, 02:52:58 am »
don't forget that stock can be made into stuff that is worth more then the stock itself

Yes also dont forget that stocks can be made into stuff that is worth a lot less than the stock it self. Like swords of low Q which could only be sold for a few thousand trias

Stocks used to be worth 2.5K Trias each to me when the return of digging at the gold mine and the iron mine is the same. I am having second thoughts of paying this price with the poor returns at the gold mine.

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2007, 02:57:45 am »
except have you tried beating up a trepor or a poor little rat with the similar load of stock? and don't forget, the price that the npc will pay is the minimum not the maximum.
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Re: The low worth of stock
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2007, 04:23:20 am »
except have you tried beating up a trepor or a poor little rat with the similar load of stock? and don't forget, the price that the npc will pay is the minimum not the maximum.

LOL ... no I have not tried to... maybe one of thse days ... I wonder if a red hot stock hits better than a cold stock....

I dont know what you are trying to say in your response. I know NPC buys SS at 160T and LS 960T or there about as far as I can remember, the few thousand trias price is what most players are willling to pay for a low Q sword or maybe there is a sucker in PS whom I have yet to meet willing to pay tens of thousand for a low Q weapon.