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Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« on: August 19, 2007, 11:21:06 pm »
Well in last bounty RP I noticed that people realy love things like spoiling, running out of DR and coming back in one min and so on...

So from now, as those aren't official rules of this game or settings, but they are rules of me. If you want to roleplay with me (like joining plot lead by me), you have to accept following rules:

1: No ooc spoiling, your character can't "luckily" find someone hiden out in total nowhere. Don't ask me or my guildmembers about location where I or any other person is.
2: PvP based on system fights doesn't end up with death until directly said so before and agreed by both sides. You end up heavy wounded and you have to roleplay wounded person for 24hours (rl hours).
3: If PvP ends with death, you enter DR, your sould is blind and lost there and probably needs help out of there, you have to stay there minimaly 5days (you can skip one day or stay longer dependant on ressurection rp you'll set up).
4: Roleplayed fights, as I guess you as "non PLer" have "superpowers" and so on, to avoid godmoding and so on I suggest basing your rp on stats and skills of your character. If you still don't like it talk oocly with enemy and set up basic /roll rules based on his chars strength and your char accepting that you both are nearly the same strength. so for example one will have /roll 6 the other one /roll 8 while higer number wins.
5: I know you read it from my mind already, but yes.. YOU CAN'T READ OTHER PERSON'S MIND.

please note me if I forgot something.. thanks
« Last Edit: August 20, 2007, 12:20:48 am by socia »

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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2007, 11:53:39 pm »
You left out the problem of abilities that are RPed but not implemented in game mechanics.  :oops:  For instance, Kaerli and her fellow Rangers have the ability to track; that is not implemented yet though, so it must be RPed using a mixture of /me actions and /tells, as well as OOC cooperation between the two RPers involved.  If you call the coordination needed for such "spoiling"...well, I dunno what to do with you :P

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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 12:21:46 am »
I don't accept it until basic rules are set so talk trough /tell about your ability, so same rule as for rp duel

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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2007, 09:15:54 am »
Fine.

Let's all make our own rules.

Sounds like fun to me.

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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 11:04:23 am »
You don't like rules, ok shut up and ignore me.

I don't think that those rules are somehow affecting you as I never had rp with you so please comment something what affects you and what you know why is it so.
Thank you.

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2007, 11:25:50 am »
You don't like rules

I did not say that.

I like rules. When they are agreed by more than one and not forced by one who believes it would be necessary for ones gameplay.

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, ok shut up and ignore me.

ah see ^ a rule that affects me !

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I don't think that those rules are somehow affecting you as I never had rp with you so please comment something what affects you and what you know why is it so.

err - What ?

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Thank you.

You are very welcome.


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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 11:40:14 am »
Look, these rules are old, even I learnt them, they wwere followed in past by many people and a lot of them left... But that doesn't mean that I won't follow them. New generation of players came and asked what rules I do follow > here you have them. As they doesn't affect you and you have no constructive critics, I ask to to remin silent and keep your irony for your self.

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2007, 01:01:35 pm »

3: If PvP ends with death, you enter DR, your sould is blind and lost there and probably needs help out of there, you have to stay there minimaly 5days (you can skip one day or stay longer dependant on ressurection rp you'll set up).


Yay - at last I understand why some players need so many alts.
Must be quite annoying to not be able to play for 5 days.


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Look, these rules are old, even I learnt them, they wwere followed in past by many people and a lot of them left... But that doesn't mean that I won't follow them. New generation of players came and asked what rules I do follow > here you have them.


Here you have them? - Thank you my "Ruler" !

I thought - ah - forget it.

I'll stay quiet now

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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2007, 02:36:10 pm »
3: If PvP ends with death, you enter DR, your sould is blind and lost there and probably needs help out of there, you have to stay there minimaly 5days (you can skip one day or stay longer dependant on ressurection rp you'll set up).
Yay - at last I understand why some players need so many alts.
Must be quite annoying to not be able to play for 5 days.
That is actually making sense. Death has a meaning.



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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2007, 03:03:42 pm »
Heya Socia!

What you suggest here is actually what was my intention here --> http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=29562.0

I support this idea and basically agree with the outlines of your rules.
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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2007, 03:43:39 pm »
Fozzharn, if you do not agree with the rules Socia made for roleplaying with her, just avoid RPing with her instead of critizing those rules. Personally, I think some kind of rules are needed, as too many persons that are unfamiliar with RPing try to be "cool" and just want to kill Socia's character for the bounty, not caring for roleplay at all.

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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2007, 06:15:05 pm »
3: If PvP ends with death, you enter DR, your sould is blind and lost there and probably needs help out of there, you have to stay there minimaly 5days (you can skip one day or stay longer dependant on ressurection rp you'll set up).
Yay - at last I understand why some players need so many alts.
Must be quite annoying to not be able to play for 5 days.
That is actually making sense. Death has a meaning.


Death is a very confuse issue in Yilakum. Above some pretend that the dead don't or seldom return... below they say clearly that many return and that there are many portals that allow that... that only the weaklings (and a few other situations like Octarchal excution victims) remain in DR forever.

The rules of DR are the ones that really apply and hence people can and often return. That doesn't mean I like sprinters though (maybe if mouse directed movement wasn't allowed they would not run so much... on risk of falling).

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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2007, 06:20:14 pm »
I were once fighting with some annoying dwarf who i killed 4 times and he was everytime going back from DR to me in lass then 10 minutes. And trying to RP that a dwarf always wins and i need to die.
The 5th time he got me as i got tired and didn't realise my weapons were hided ;]

Yeah, some rules are needed to avoid such a silly situations.



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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2007, 11:21:18 pm »
I do like these rules. Especially the death one. 5 days should amount to weeks in Ylikuam and its sensible that it took you weaks to leave DR.


3: If PvP ends with death, you enter DR, your sould is blind and lost there and probably needs help out of there, you have to stay there minimaly 5days (you can skip one day or stay longer dependant on ressurection rp you'll set up).


Yay - at last I understand why some players need so many alts.
Must be quite annoying to not be able to play for 5 days.


Being in DR for 5 days should not mean "use an alt." There is "life" in Death Realm. In other words its possible to do things and rp while there. Is there as much oppertunity as there is when your alive? Maybe not but you took the chance. I'm not saying you have to spend hours just sitting in DR doing nothing but whats the point of the punishment if your just going to find some kinda way to avoid it?
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Re: Some basic rules if you want to have anything with me
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2007, 11:26:25 pm »
Fozzharn, if you do not agree with the rules Socia made for roleplaying with her, just avoid RPing with her instead of critizing those rules. Personally, I think some kind of rules are needed, as too many persons that are unfamiliar with RPing try to be "cool" and just want to kill Socia's character for the bounty, not caring for roleplay at all.

Oh, that's good roleplay alright!  I have to not play with characters X, T, F and Q, and I can only RP with Z, B,G and K per the rules they have posted some not ingame, and S,Y and R only RP on tuesdays and saturdays, I must ignore C,E and M, but not V, while B,W and P ignore me but not U.  Sounds like not only do you need some rules, you also need to define "roleplay".  While obviously, godmodders and those who simply ignore any pretense of RP are a problem, I cannot understand the "I will ignore any who don't play by my rules" attitude that I see here frequently. 

I will RP with anyone, anytime.  But that said, don't expect me to be up to date with "your rules", or some story that you wrote up in a forum or on your website, and get all huffy because I don't say or do what you expect.  If the plot isn't readily available (or at least discoverable) ingame, to any and all who may be around, then either you failed to develop it properly, or you are godmodding.  I've seen comments here in the forums to the effect of "I don't train X because it takes too long, but I RP X because it suits my character".  I've also seen long (and well developed) stories posted here that are supposed to be RPed in the game, yet there is nothing ingame to support it.

Its an RPG.  Many, it seems, prefer to forget the RP.  But just as many others seem to forget the G.  For an example of both, read the older thread about fighting on the plaza.  Half the comment were "if its not built in the game it doesn't exist", the other half were "fighting isn't RP, stop it".   As someone who was present at that incident, and who talked to characters involved, I say both are wrong.  From talking to the characters, there clearly was *some* RP involved, but most agree it wasn't well developed, so not apparent to onlookers.  But on the other hand, I saw no effort from onlookers to RP in or around the incident, although there was plenty of opportunity.

If in a real life scenario a fight breaks out in the plaza, what do you do?  Ignore it? Hardly!  In that incident, most of bystanders either went on with their auctions/training/smithing/whatever and pretended nothing was happening, or immediately started complaining and crying for GM intervention.  No attempt to run for cover, or call the guards, or anything resembling a real response. (Particularly odd, since in the discussion, the so called RPers keep quoting the guards as why fighting in the plaza wasn't RP. If that's so, then I'd think yelling "GUARDS" would be the first thing to do...) 

So since I've already typed more than I normally do in a week, I'll just condense it to: RP is not about "your" story or rules.  And the game is not about killing and power leveling. That's not to say you can't develop your story, or train and level your character, but your story should be developed in game, and if the game throws you a curve, you should have enough imagination to adjust, not say "I'm ignoring that".  And your leveling should be in accordance with the character you are RPing, not just maxing out because you can (but if you are RPing a great swordmaster don't let me find out your SWD level is 3).  RP should be all inclusive of other players and the game (and yes there are ways to deal with ooc players that are still IC and RP).  Its a game, and your RP should not ignore or exclude the other players and events going on in the game any more than the game should exclude RP.   It really is more fun when it all works together.