For the love of *insert whatever here* people .....

[zanzibar]

Haven't I made a third option pretty clear?  It's to stay, but to correct the bad behaviour.

Actually, if I were responsible for these forums, I had taken action against the first three people who went off topic within this thread.
I was not talking about leaving the forums unattended - in the contrary. I was talking about cutting down the senseless arguments and mudthrowing towards the staff, all the people who seek help here and regular users who don't need to go on an ego trip.
I was talking about involvement of the devs or GMs or mods with player topics and not getting involved if not called. And if involved, having the team answer as one after internal discussion.

Going off topic when a conversation evolves is such a petty annoyance that I'm surprised most people even notice such things, including me.  There are exceptions, but it's not close to a bannable offense in and of itself.  A more appprorpiate response is to split the thread.

When I've said "play nice", people have accused me of being a troll, so the tone of your post confuses me.  I'm not sure you're thinking of the problem others are thinking of.  Even then, I don't see much mudslinging on the forums from the players towards the devs except for two repeating themes:


1.  Dissatisfaction with the speed of progress.  This complaint is bogus and noobish and shouldn't have an effect on anyone or a response beyond a form response and a lock.

2.  Dissatisfaction with trollish behaviour from the devs.  This complaint has weight to it, but people don't usually communicate it in an effective way.  I think we can talk about the problem without dividing the community.

[Draklar]

1.  Dissatisfaction with the speed of progress.  This complaint is bogus and noobish and shouldn't have an effect on anyone or a response beyond a form response and a lock.

Don't you think that would be a rather COMMUNISTic thing to do?

[zanzibar]

1.  Dissatisfaction with the speed of progress.  This complaint is bogus and noobish and shouldn't have an effect on anyone or a response beyond a form response and a lock.

Don't you think that would be a rather COMMUNISTic thing to do?

Of course not.  You should always read the stickies in a forum before posting to it.  If a new player comes along and make a redundant thread, then I see nothing wrong in giving him a form response or directing him to another thread.

[Draklar]

Heh, you failed.

[zanzibar]

Heh, you failed.

If you say so.

[neko kyouran]

  and trollish remark:

* neko kyouran sits back and munches on pop corn as the debate unfolds.

 

 

[ShadowKat]

*pokes whiskers in and looks around*

wtf happened to this topic ?!?!?  I originally had the "off topic" sign at the beginning of this post, but then realized that what I'm about to say is very much ON topic.

This was supposed to be a "spanking" for those board members who do nothing but whine, b*tch, and troll.  I said it at the beginning of this thread and I'll say it again ....

No, I'm not "Little Mary Sunshine" trying to blow flowers up people's backside about this game. (anyone that knows me in real life can tell you I'm about as opposite of that as possible).  Yes, I have my own share of frustrations about the game and occasionally the way the board is run.  BUT this is a game in development with a very diverse dev team.  And hey, guess what ... they're human.  They aren't going to get along with everyone, and not everyone is going to get along with them.  Tough sh*t.  That's the way real life works.  Are there issues in all aspects of both board and game?  Yes.  Does anyone have a "magic bullet" to fix them all? No. And quite frankly, anyone who thinks there is, is a bit delusional IMNSHO.

Again (as has been stated in several ways in this thread) ... we are guests in their house.  This game is their baby.  They have invited us in to help share in the creation ... but we do so by their grace.  They have the right to kick our arses out at any time, for any reason.  And they certainly don't have to take even one iota of our suggestions (or our sh*t).  They do so because they want to.   But their dream for this game is their own, not ours. Seems to me that patience goes both ways.  If we want patience and respect from them, we have to be willing to give it in return.


now then ... this part is off topic ... wtf happened to Karyuu???  I've been off the boards for a bit, and even with trying to look thru the "new threads since last visit", I seemed to have missed that.

[acraig]

Seems good place to end it.