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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2007, 05:09:15 pm »
To get back on-topic...

Alcoholic drinks, though very important to some people, are probably quite low on the settings to do list.  For now just roleplay with what you have (Angry Groffel, Twisted Emerald, Dermorian Longbeard, Red Liquor, Beer) and feel free to make up a few drinks in the mean time.

I'm sure many 'real life' drinks will appear in the game, and, knowing Xillix, I wouldn't be surprised to see them disappear and be replaced over time.  But, you must keep in mind he, along with all the devs,  is quite busy.
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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2007, 07:43:28 pm »
maybe its just me, but playing morriowind tES i could rarely see refferenced to some specific real world items. Yet I din't have many problem to understand the world.
I'm just trying to say we don't need as many references to real world as we have now. Starting from apples and ending on carps as animals. People will accomodate fast to new reality. And it is going to be more interesting for sure.
The only drawback is for the setting team, planning more needed stuff. But I think they rather make world more original as i wrote above :) , we will see.



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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2007, 09:11:12 pm »
Off-topic posts have been moved to their own thread here. Feel free to continue the discussion :) (And edit that thread title to whatever you like more.)
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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2007, 09:26:41 pm »
Of course, Niko.  But, it's more a question of how much time the settings team has. :)

I'm sure Xillix will end up completely reshaping the world but, for now, we need placeholders :)
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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2007, 09:57:01 pm »
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My thoughts: We have a crystal for a sun...  Tongue. How would any plant such as sugarcane, oak, etc grow there? I suppose our plants have adapted, but how could anything else? as far as names go, water is the only thing that I can really see happening, but since beer is a main item in game (or at least the mug) than I suppose things like tea should work as well.
Plants can survive on electrical light. It doesn't matter what kind of light it is, as long as it is constituted by photons. And light is usually constituted by photons.

This might be a valid approach: Vodka and Whiskey are untranslatable words. They obviously possess a relevant link to OOC realities that may be beyond the barrier of the acceptable. Whiskey and Vodka fall in the same category as Aguardente, Cachaça, etc. They're actually names for alcoholic beverages that are acquired by the process of distilling fermented stuff. I believe the right way to address them would be to call them "Spirits."
Wine, mead, beer are translatable words that don't point out at something specific from a nation/place.

In my way of seeing things "Ah, great spirit.." Is better than "Mighty fine whiskey." in PS.
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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2007, 10:52:58 pm »
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My thoughts: We have a crystal for a sun...  Tongue. How would any plant such as sugarcane, oak, etc grow there? I suppose our plants have adapted, but how could anything else? as far as names go, water is the only thing that I can really see happening, but since beer is a main item in game (or at least the mug) than I suppose things like tea should work as well.
Plants can survive on electrical light. It doesn't matter what kind of light it is, as long as it is constituted by photons. And light is usually constituted by photons.

To be accurate all light is made up of photons, not to get too technical, or into the wave/particle duality of light, but all plants get their energy from the process of photosynthesis, which simply put, means that plants make the materials they need to grow and develop from light, it actually makes little difference what 'type' of light, electric, solar, crystal, the energy is derived from the photons, so any light will do, and plants will adapt to make use of the available sources.

If we have trees, grass, flowers, then logically there must be enough light for plants to flourish, if plants flourish then the whole ecosystem will naturally balance itself and various types of plant will adapt themselves to fit the available spaces, grasses will produce grains, trees will produce fruits, if the ecosystem is similar enough then any plant we know of is possible in PS, provided the nutrients and trace minerals are present in the correct quantities.

What does this mean for drinks? Well barley, hops, wheat, potatoes, grapes, apples and many other fruits and vegetables can be used in the making of ales, wines, and spirits. The names of these drinks however would be different from the ones we know of OOC, but their analogues would probably still be present.

However what the heck do Kran drink that has an equivalent effect on them as alcohol does on us carbon based types? Some mix of rare minerals or salts perhaps?
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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2007, 11:05:26 pm »
At what point do you come to the conclusion that instead of inventing new names for everything it makes more sense to use the familiar ones. You can call vodka, whiskey etc. grain alcohol if you like but then you could call them berazzle fingdarp too.

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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2007, 11:41:18 pm »
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but then you could call them berazzle fingdarp too.

Can we use that?

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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2007, 02:02:46 am »
Sure Jeraphon, for anything you like. You might want to do a web search as I might have unconsciously stole it from somewhere.

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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2007, 03:46:19 am »
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My thoughts: We have a crystal for a sun...  Tongue. How would any plant such as sugarcane, oak, etc grow there? I suppose our plants have adapted, but how could anything else? as far as names go, water is the only thing that I can really see happening, but since beer is a main item in game (or at least the mug) than I suppose things like tea should work as well.
Plants can survive on electrical light. It doesn't matter what kind of light it is, as long as it is constituted by photons. And light is usually constituted by photons.

To be accurate all light is made up of photons, not to get too technical, or into the wave/particle duality of light, but all plants get their energy from the process of photosynthesis, which simply put, means that plants make the materials they need to grow and develop from light, it actually makes little difference what 'type' of light, electric, solar, crystal, the energy is derived from the photons, so any light will do, and plants will adapt to make use of the available sources.

If we have trees, grass, flowers, then logically there must be enough light for plants to flourish, if plants flourish then the whole ecosystem will naturally balance itself and various types of plant will adapt themselves to fit the available spaces, grasses will produce grains, trees will produce fruits, if the ecosystem is similar enough then any plant we know of is possible in PS, provided the nutrients and trace minerals are present in the correct quantities.

What does this mean for drinks? Well barley, hops, wheat, potatoes, grapes, apples and many other fruits and vegetables can be used in the making of ales, wines, and spirits. The names of these drinks however would be different from the ones we know of OOC, but their analogues would probably still be present.

However what the heck do Kran drink that has an equivalent effect on them as alcohol does on us carbon based types? Some mix of rare minerals or salts perhaps?

Didn't know that, thanx for the info  :P.

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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2007, 04:09:45 am »
I'd say every drink but sake is fine. But my character usually sticks to drinking beer, cider (non-alcoholic, though), rum, and ale.

It would be funny to see a couple of Enkidukais dancing round drunk on Captain Morgans and Miller Lights.

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Re: To drink, or not to drink..?
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2007, 07:08:51 am »
Is beer brewed with hops in PS?

It seems to me that with the limited space in the stalactite, food would be on a higher priority than fermented drinks, so the selection might be limited to those that would not take up large volumes of land to produce. Fruits can be grown in the hanging  gardens, so wines (any fermented fruit drink) would likely be far more prominent and cheaper than those based on grain (which would be better used as food).