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Re: Cabbages and Kings.
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2007, 06:55:47 pm »
Hmm I think I missed Eldoths point a bit. I was thinking someone might want to write a book that took information learned from talking to npcs and doing the quests and put it all in one place. As for recording role plays there is the appropriate section in this forum and the possibility on guild pages that is not to say you cannot have books stored in your guild house.

Hmm maybe I should start up a curators guild and attempt to buy a house for a museum. Sounds like a great vehicle for role playing attempts to get patronage (funding), tour guides and possibly a lending library. There is no need to have the devs put contributions into Jayose's library when the job can be taken by players in competition. More work than I am going to do but if someone else likes it feel free to use it.

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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2007, 07:36:47 pm »
I meant that existing roleplays that did not fit the settings, could be written into a book in game (yes by the players yes not devs). This book then exists as a piece of the literary culture of Yliakum as *fiction* This book can then be referenced in RPs as a work of fiction within the game world, to ease the transition out of existing RPs that become required to change by settings changes. It was just a fleeting idea, probably not a great one anyway, and it would require some savoir faire on the part of the characters.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2007, 08:10:15 pm »
I don't know if that would work, since it would all be fiction based on "real" people, which doesn't happen a lot in real life. Maybe if the stories were kept on file for a while until the people involved had mostly left.

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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2007, 11:17:57 pm »
I don't know if that would work, since it would all be fiction based on "real" people, which doesn't happen a lot in real life.
Or the `Real people' that the stories are about are named after the characters in the books...   :whistling:

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2007, 12:21:11 am »
I actually do like the idea of a play made library containing stories of things that happened in the game, occly known to be old rps. In that way while these rps don't necessarily fit in the settings one could argue these things still existed. In other words while OOCly we'd all have to regard them as fiction a player could believe the book to be truth. Possibly one could call these rp's over-exaggerations of real life events. So while the story (and what happened in the original rp) says I found a glyph with the power to raise the spirits of those I killed the game makes an actual glyph that summons illusions and in the end one can believe the story or instead believe that truely all I did was make illusions as possible with the glyph.

Maybe not the best example but I think you get where I'm going with it.  :P
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Re: Cabbages and Kings.
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2007, 07:47:48 am »
Well this is a fantasy RPG, what is wrong with it containing a few fantasies? Such things could be akin to historical fiction or alternate universe fantasies. Were the Iliad and the Odyssey true tellings?

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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2007, 10:14:42 am »
* Zan starts writing an autobiography of his real life and publishes it in Planeshift under fiction.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2007, 01:07:17 am »
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Were the Iliad and the Odyssey true tellings?

The Iliad wasn't a true telling?  :(

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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2007, 07:21:16 am »
Are you answering my question with a question? I thought it contained accounts of the supernatural and unlikely events. Can't say I have read it though.

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The lucky ones are sometimes whisked away by friendly charioteers or the intervention of a god, but Homeric warfare is still some of the most bloody and brutal in literature.

The Iliad has a very strong religious and supernatural element. Both sides in the war are extremely pious, and both have heroes descended from divine beings. They constantly sacrifice to the gods and consult priests and prophets to decide their actions. For their own part, the gods frequently join in battles, both by advising and protecting their favorites and even by participating in combat against humans and other gods
doesn't sound completely factual to me.

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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2007, 09:38:31 am »
If you consider gods, enormous sea creatures and one eyed cyclopses ever to have existed I guess the Iliad and Oddysey can be called true stories. It's greek mythology at it's prime.

Which puts it in the same line of questioning as whether the bible really happened or is a work of fiction, based on reality with some good morals.
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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2007, 10:42:37 pm »
You are not the leaders of a shadow government.
Speak for yourself! ;)

Excellent post.  I don't understand why some people don't understand this.

I think a project to gather the settings information into one place in game is a very good idea. The main problem I see with it is that books are still minimally functional. I am not saying that to be critical, they are much much better than no user books at all, I am just saying it is early in their development cycle.

Hmm I think I missed Eldoths point a bit. I was thinking someone might want to write a book that took information learned from talking to npcs and doing the quests and put it all in one place. As for recording role plays there is the appropriate section in this forum and the possibility on guild pages that is not to say you cannot have books stored in your guild house.

Hmm maybe I should start up a curators guild and attempt to buy a house for a museum. Sounds like a great vehicle for role playing attempts to get patronage (funding), tour guides and possibly a lending library. There is no need to have the devs put contributions into Jayose's library when the job can be taken by players in competition. More work than I am going to do but if someone else likes it feel free to use it.

Well this is a fantasy RPG, what is wrong with it containing a few fantasies? Such things could be akin to historical fiction or alternate universe fantasies. Were the Iliad and the Odyssey true tellings?

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