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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2007, 08:50:28 am »
It seems to me that you believe that there is no support from the GM's...

The best you can do against OOC harassment is to tell the person OOC'ly to stop it and to leave you alone. If they don't you will have all the support from the GM's.
I wish.

It also seems to me that you are suffering such at the moment? - I say this by the very fact that you are so adamant that the problem is that bad.

If you are - Have you reported it? If not - why not?

As to the game having mechanics to stop such - you will never (As I have already stated) stop it happening, you can only dissuade it by your own actions.  

Bilbous was not simplistic about it - his words were quite true, and on topic.  Harassment is not just in game - it can start outside the game and migrate to it, which is exactly what you were stating in the first place
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As others have complained from time to time, it isn't unheard of for people to express out of game hatreds through actions that they try to pass as being in character.
The ooc has to start somewhere, and for sure - as stated by Bilbous, it could very well stem from peoples reactions to someones behaviour or oppinions here on the forums.  I don't think he was stating that 'people who suffer from this kind of griefing tend to deserve it'  at all.  Having an oppinion does not make you deserving of such griefing.

There will always be those who are bitter and twisted because they don't like their lot in life, or they cannot come to terms with the fact that others have different appinions to them and wont side with them, so they turn to 'bully tactics'.  And some are just doing it for the reaction - so reacting to it just perpetuates their behaviour.

Sadly - REPORTING and IGNORING are the only tools available to deal with such behaviour, and by not doing such behaviour yourself in a clear and transparant way - any mud slung won't stick for long, as gamers will soon see by playing with you what you are actually like.

GM's are there to help the community police this behaviour.
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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2007, 09:10:53 am »
I'm afraid that we aren't allowed to discuss any actions taken or not taken by the GM team or Kerol.
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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2007, 06:30:40 pm »
Well you keep talking about it and there are others here who seem to agree but my knowledge is not first-hand. To be fair, I should note that my recent experience has been limited and most of my relationships in the game have been fairly casual. Certainly anyone spending a lot of time in game will have more opportunity for it to occur.
There's no need to backtrack.  I'm just wondering what it is that you hope to contribute to the thread.  Your original post seemed to say "People who suffer from this kind of griefing tend to deserve it".  Now you're acknowledging that a problem actually exists, but you don't have experience with it apart from what you're told about it by others.  I do think there's truth to your suggestion that using character profiles might inflame the situation, but you slipped in a bit there that wasn't really related to anything anyone had posted.  No one has posted saying that they tried this, so I'm not sure anyone is in a position to give you a review of the results.
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I am not backtracking I am making what is known as a fair disclosure. Third hand information is not always accurate and some people could be using sock puppets to support their own position. I merely acknowledged that some people think a problem exists I have no first hand experience to speak of. When you spoke of not finding a magic bullet I thought it meant you had actually tried something but looking back I seem to have misread or remembered what you said. As for the rest:

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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2007, 06:52:37 pm »
I am not backtracking I am making what is known as a fair disclosure. Third hand information is not always accurate and some people could be using sock puppets to support their own position.
And the sideways paranoid accusations just keep on coming. :lol:
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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2007, 07:11:55 pm »
I am not backtracking I am making what is known as a fair disclosure. Third hand information is not always accurate and some people could be using sock puppets to support their own position.
And the sideways paranoid accusations just keep on coming. :lol:

I fail to see what that has to do with this discussion you started?  All it seems to do for me is make me think that you are paraniod, or perhaps disgruntled that there is no easy fix to the problem of Harassment?
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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2007, 07:38:48 pm »
I am not backtracking I am making what is known as a fair disclosure. Third hand information is not always accurate and some people could be using sock puppets to support their own position.
And the sideways paranoid accusations just keep on coming. :lol:

I fail to see what that has to do with this discussion you started?  All it seems to do for me is make me think that you are paraniod, or perhaps disgruntled that there is no easy fix to the problem of Harassment?
Excuse me, but Bilbous has accused me of following him around with alts to poke at his character's name, and now he's suggesting that people are using "sock puppets" to invent problems to complain about.  What else would you call that except paranoid?

If you meant to reply to Bilbous's post instead of my own then I apologize for being so direct.
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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2007, 08:01:32 pm »
Who is Bilbous? I am bilbous :P I didn't say you followed me around with alts, I said on the rare occasions someone goes all Middle Earth on me I think it is you. As for Sock Puppets, they are a forum fact of life. But this is all Off-Topic, can we please get back to what kind of OOC information you think might be helpful in a character description? I cannot see anything that might be useful as I said before.

Perhaps you could share with us some of those "silver bullets" that you deemed unsuitable, I inferred that you did have some you rejected. Perhaps we would get a better idea of what you mean and can help you tailor one of the rejects into usable shape.

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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2007, 10:51:43 pm »
Who is Bilbous? I am bilbous :P I didn't say you followed me around with alts, I said on the rare occasions someone goes all Middle Earth on me I think it is you.
Of course.  The distinction is obvious.

But this is all Off-Topic, can we please get back to what kind of OOC information you think might be helpful in a character description? I cannot see anything that might be useful as I said before.
If you see those thing as off topic, why did you post them in the first place? ???  You're just upset that you got caught posting something inappropriate.
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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2007, 11:12:23 pm »
I wanna hear more about this "going all Middle Earth" conspiracy thing...

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Re: OOC information in your character profile as protection from harassment?
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2007, 12:06:19 am »
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