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Xillix Queen of Fools

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2007, 09:32:30 pm »
mordaan it was unclear, my bad.

peeg I too would like to see more harsh action taken, inevitably some will face more serious repercussions than others. Our idea was to give people who may have gotten caught up in this or felt they had to keep quiet while a friend was doing it a chance to tell their story before we just smacked everyone down.

I hope the exploiters will take some responsibility to help protect the innocent.

This is the cost of exploiting and the server will remain down until we have the problem fixed and the perpetrators have had a chance to come forward, so if you see or know of a cheat, make it know to gms or devs before it gets out of hand.

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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2007, 09:34:57 pm »
And there should be no punishment for the innocent players of Yliakum! Let meee plaaaaaay!!  I'm ill and have nothin' else to do. Feel sympathy for the poor little Martian.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2007, 09:48:57 pm »
<.< I wanted to delete everyone's characters and clean up the whole db :P Feel lucky people!

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2007, 09:53:49 pm »
Ever merciful Xordan!

A more harsh punishment is needed for the perps though in my opinion.
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(

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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2007, 10:18:24 pm »
Ya i think that people who exploited that come foreward should get like a 1 or 2 week suspension from the game.  Also, does anyone have a general idea when the servers will be back to normal?

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2007, 10:22:14 pm »
Ya i think that people who exploited that come foreward should get like a 1 or 2 week suspension from the game.  Also, does anyone have a general idea when the servers will be back to normal?

when Talad is ready

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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2007, 10:50:28 pm »
I agree with Cebot's idea of a list with the known people.  I had no idea this was happening, I just got back from a trip mto find the server down.  I haven't used the exploit as far as i know because Morila is broke   :'(    And i have no clue if i traded with someone who had exploit money.   :-\

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2007, 10:57:11 pm »
If you can see, who exploited it, I personally also would suggest, to give the people a ban for about two weeks - then everybody gets to know, if somebody is "on vacation" the next weeks and there is no need to open up a list...But punishment has to be in my opinion...

By the way...Xordan's idea doesn't sound very badly and please don't cry around here, because you aren't able to play (I mean the ones, who will start this soon here ;))

Skar

P.S.: I can only repeat what Xillix posted before:

This is the cost of exploiting and the server will remain down until we have the problem fixed and the perpetrators have had a chance to come forward, so if you see or know of a cheat, make it know to gms or devs before it gets out of hand.

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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2007, 11:40:55 pm »
also note that waiting around for those that exploited could take weeks.  not everyone plays every day or is it safe to assume those that have partaken in the exploit played everyday.  they could very well be ones that played on weekends, played every other weekend, played on days off from work (once or twice a week).  As such, this window of opportunity may not be known to them and may only serve to have a fraction of them come forward. If fewer than expected come up I'd imagine the dev's to ban alot of accounts, some of them being false positives. 

my suggestion is , once the exploit is fixed, open up the game again and extend this window of opportunity for weeks or up to a month.  not sure what the cons are to this idea.  any ideas?

Not really clear about the whole thing except that the exploit doubled money.  if there are logs of doubling of money on some grand scale, then catching the perpetrators wouldn't be that difficult.  but since there is a window of oppotunity, it doesn't seem like it is that easy.  i'm still confused to be honest.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2007, 11:46:09 pm »
* Anumesa shakes her fist at the cheaters and pouting, retires to a corner to wait


 >:(

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2007, 12:06:59 am »
Yeah, those who have exploited are going to face a lot of angry players when the game comes back... It's like in school when the whole class gets punished for one kid's misbehavior.

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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2007, 12:17:03 am »
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Yeah, those who have exploited are going to face a lot of angry players when the game comes back... It's like in school when the whole class gets punished for one kid's misbehavior.

you mean for example
1.) standing next to them giving them the eye?
2.) equate them to them to being an NPC and have 8 people ask them if they need a quest?
3.) spam them with trade requests?


nothing will be done to them ingame.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2007, 12:28:23 am »
In my opinion, the exploit should be explained in the forum.  If I understand correctly and PlaneShift will be down until the exploit is no longer available, there is no possibility that anyone will be able to use it when the server comes back up.  Thusly an explanation of how it was done will allow those who didn't realize they were doing and/or how they did it to confess their mistake and be exonerated.  It may be clear who abused it to become rich; The logs see all.  But what if I have done it accidentally and wasn't aware of it?

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2007, 12:30:04 am »
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Yeah, those who have exploited are going to face a lot of angry players when the game comes back... It's like in school when the whole class gets punished for one kid's misbehavior.

you mean for example
1.) standing next to them giving them the eye?
2.) equate them to them to being an NPC and have 8 people ask them if they need a quest?
3.) spam them with trade requests?


nothing will be done to them ingame.
Just put some unremovable duncecaps on their avies for a month.... :devil:

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2007, 12:37:59 am »
jayose script quest ftw, made it so easy to get those claymores.
<Rux> i wish i could say that narrows it down, but the internet is one freaky place