New Chat Bubbles = R.I.P. HAGS?

[ThomPhoenix]

You can still see the label.

[miadon]

Well you need to find better hiding spots like I know of. but not telling...

[Erisnas]

Perhaps in the future you could have an RP mode where everything is as it was as if you were the person.  So take out seeing someone's name if you don't know them, no chat bubbles, first-person camera only, etc.

[Farren Kutter]

That's hardly an RP mode

But possibly an option as to whether your own name is displayed >.>

[Garile]

hmm I always found the tags to be the same as for exaple a face or bodytype and movements. I mean there are only a few charactermodels so as is now you couldn't even tell your own sisters apart if they were standing next to you without a tag or by selecting them.

You just have to keep in mind who you actually know the name of and who you might only know the face of.

[Erisnas]

That's hardly an RP mode

But possibly an option as to whether your own name is displayed >.>

Well I don't tend to do RPs where it would require a more specific standpoint.  I would have to take suggestions from others to make a more specific description.

[Miaua]

Perhaps in the future you could have an RP mode where everything is as it was as if you were the person.  So take out seeing someone's name if you don't know them, no chat bubbles, first-person camera only, etc.

The best RP mode is to RP well.
Labels are in my opinion much of IC.
As Garile said. When my character is on plaza, he for sure recognise characters she knows. But OOC, I do not. I see several same people (same models) and without targeting, oocly I dont recognise them. For me is more disturbing, should I need to click on everyone to see who it is.
So whats more OOC? When you miss someone you know well, standing next to you? Of course it spoils the feeling and realism of the game.. but its reasonable sacrifice for me.
1st persom mode is as well a bit of problematic. Its hard to controll your character in 1st person (at least in current release). As well as your characters solid angle vision (not sure how is it called) is void.
And chat bubbles..    Hm. I didnt like it as well, but got somehow used on it. And it sure has some gain as well. You perhaps see others speaking, and you dont need to keep an eye on chat lines (usefull while walking perhaps), or someone speaks when you have chat tab switched to another then main. Its unrealistic when someone overhears a character who stands in front of him. This prevents this situations a little. As well as perhaps shouting. Its logic, that your character evaluates wherefrom the sound came. Chat bubble shows it OOCly, so you can bring it to IC. (I remember that I had to ask in /tell many times about direction of shout's source).

I agree that hold to this needs a good RP skills. But its possible This is my humble opinion.

[Mordaan]

Ah, good 'ol HAGS.  Good to see it left an impression.   
Yes, I can see where chat bubbles might pose a problem.  Maybe someday they will provide an option for us to turn it off.  Maybe by channel.  To me chat bubbles make sense for main chat and even tells maybe.  But not so much for other channels like guild or group.  Maybe they can go so far as to enable the group leader to be able to control that.

But until then, should a game of HAGS break out at some point, we'll just have to deal with it and adjust.  Either remain more silent or don't hide in such a place where the chat bubble can easily give you away.  That being said, those group chats were a big part of the fun.  One could fall asleep standing there in complete silence.  Not to mention, it's kind of necessary for communicating what's going on.

[Vornne]

Heh, I just found a relevant feature request hiding in the old tracker... from 05: Bug 168

[Silavur]

Does no one see the upside besides me? Death to HAGS... birth of Marco Polo!!! 

[Draklar]

Weren't games like HAGS and Assassins out of character activities people used as compensation for lack of gameplay features in Planeshift?

[Einnol]

I agree with the others who suggested that maybe the chat bubbles should only show IC chat (/say, /shout).  This would help to clarify the difference between IC and OOC chat to new players also (something which is sometimes confusing and difficult for them to grasp at first).  When they ask "How I can tell if something is IC or OOC?".  The simple answer would be:  "Chat bubbles."  As the chat bubbles work now, I can see it being even more confusing for new players since even OOC chat has the appearance of coming out of the characters' mouths since it's in a bubble that is pointing right at our characters' heads. 

As far as HAGS goes, this would solve the problem as well.  If your character speaks out loud when someone is looking for them, then he/she/kra deserve to be found. 

[Earl_Listbard]

hmm I always found the tags to be the same as for exaple a face or bodytype and movements. I mean there are only a few charactermodels so as is now you couldn't even tell your own sisters apart if they were standing next to you without a tag or by selecting them.

You just have to keep in mind who you actually know the name of and who you might only know the face of.

Well there are certain people I can (and no doubt everyone else) recognizes a mile away, even without tags. Like indygo matteo... the way he wears no boots, or gloves, and sometimes not even arms, but always is seen sporting leather torso and leg armor.

Hassadria, wears no armor except leather pants, and arms. Its easy to pick her out of a crowd.

Bodacher, typically seen with two large round shields in hand

Unar, also noticed holding two shields, triangle shaped, and wears no arm armor.

Morila, two spike shields in hand, and typically is wearing a battle helmet.

Proglin, one of the few stonebreakers with green beards, he normally sports a chainmail torso, with no armor on hands or feet.


Despite the few distinguishing marks avalible, many characters have made themselves stick out in a crowd, intentionally or not, well I dunno.

[Silavur]

Also if you type /me before talking... no chat bubble appears. /me stalks around quietly, "You're never gunna find me!"

[Parallo]

It does if you're in group to everyone else in group in the same map.