Slow. Maybe someone can help me.

[Skardellinus]

Alright, I have been able to run Planeshift properly before the .020 client,
but now (although I deactivated the whole fog and the grass!!! I told someone from my guild to make a patch there)
I am really 'laggy'(In the meaning of a reaaal slow diashow) in the following places:

Ojaveda [When I head the town centre (Brado)]
Hydlaa [Jayose, whole plaza, a bit arena]

Everything else seems to work like a charm!

So, my system is the following:
Laptop with a Pentium M, 1GB RAM, ATI X600
running Debian Etch, 2.6.20
the latest proprietary driver from ATI: 8.40.4

Planeshift setup:
resolution: 1280x800
Fullscreen mode
Color Depth: 32 Bit
Sound: Disabled
Font Scaling: 100%
Vertex Buffer: On
Stencil Treshold: 50
Multisampling: 0
Anisotropy filtering: 1.0
Multisample for Quality: Disabled
Texture Downsampling 1/8

Everything other isn't highlighted.

It would be wonderful, if someone would help me, because I don't like to buy a new system.
Thank you in advance

[Skardellinus]

Now I found an unreleased new driver...8.41...it is better...

But I would be glad, if someone would answer this post and added some for my system specific tweak possibilities...

[Araye]

Warning - the new 8.41 ati driver is only for NEW ati cards.  Don't try with an older card (99% of us). 

Yes, very, very, very slow.  I can't even move.  I await responses.

1 GB ram
ATI x1300 mobility with 256MB
Intel Centrino Duo 1.8 GHz
OpenSuse 10.3
blah blah blah

[bilbous]

I would suggest playing in a window. My desktop is 1280x1024 but I run at 1024x768. Of course it isn't an ATI video card but still worth trying.

[Skardellinus]

Warning - the new 8.41 ati driver is only for NEW ati cards.  Don't try with an older card (99% of us). 

Why, Araye? Will it break my GPU core? I really don't know, why I should stop using it, although everything else works...Would be interesting to hear the reason behind (I don't think my card is to old [2 years] and they explain, that it is supported and I haven't had an error since then)

Thank you for your answers. Also Bilbous. I will give the window a chance next time (Now it runs like it did before )

[Xordan]

It won't break your graphics card, but it might not work that great. If it works fine then there's no reason to not use it.

[Skardellinus]

It won't break your graphics card

Alright, thank you then, Xordan and thank you for another great linux release
It works great! And the framerates/whatever frequency seemed to have increased massively...(as far as I can tell...I am not the big computer freak)

Skar

[Araye]

Sorry, the warning was not for you (since you already had it working).  It was for people like me that might try it and then restart X only to find the ever so helpful commandline as the only way to use the computer.   

Of course, I know how to revert my xorg.conf to get the gui back up, but many do not and searching google for help from the command line isn't fun (more fun than booting up a windows box... but still).

Araye

p.s. I'm glad the driver worked out for you.

And just a little update, I did the ever popular /die and the graphics are faster than ever in the DR.  No screen freezes, gitters, nothing.  Just smooth operation.  So it must be the grass that is causing the ATI card to choke.

[Induane]

For others who removing the grass doesn't work for, try relighting the map yourself.

[Caarrie]

For others who removing the grass doesn't work for, try relighting the map yourself.

you can only relight the map if you have lighter2 i dont think most people have built cs just to relight a map.

[Backit]

hi,
i have the same problem. before the .020 version it works, after it doesn't. it works slowly, it jerks in central plaza in hadya. remove the grass? how do it? what's the trick to make it works?

[Geyeda]

Heya,

i'm playing with my old Geforce 2 MX 200. Worked well.
But in .020 the fps goes rapidly down in Hydlaa central and Bronze Doors(only if I look at the waterfall).
Before .020 I was able to play the game only with a few slow downs. Bronze Doors is unplayable now.
Usually i'm playing in 800x600@24bit, even if I switch down to 640x480@24bits there is nearly no improvement(only a few FPS).

EDIT: I've read that .020 uses a new Lightmap and 3D Map engine. Maybe I should update my graphic card *laugh*

[Vornne]

Well, part of the slowdown is because of unoptimized/buggy lighter2 code, it also uses more memory than previous versions, which makes it swap at times on my machine... some of the problems might already be fixed in later versions of crystalspace, bits that are in planeshift might be looked into sometime soon^TM.

So, my thoughts are don't throw away your old computer yet, planeshift should in theory still run on older hardware once things are fixed.

[Xordan]

Well, part of the slowdown is because of unoptimized/buggy lighter2 code, it also uses more memory than previous versions, which makes it swap at times on my machine... some of the problems might already be fixed in later versions of crystalspace, bits that are in planeshift might be looked into sometime soon^TM.

Well we don't know that. Lighter2 maps use less memory than the old maps do for me. Any slowdown probably isn't due to lighter2 code anyway, it's due to the code that reads the lighting info and draws it.

[Vornne]

You are correct, I got lighter2 and the new lighting system mixed up... what are others experiences with linux? How many have less memory usage with 020 art, how many have more? I hope it's just something on my system that I can fix up

I tested with the same code, just swapping the art directory.