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Scuzzle

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Updated: I'm ready
« on: November 21, 2007, 05:45:24 am »
I haven't had many problems with the tutorial. Except when I go to buy the third token the game crashes.  I have already given the dust and certificate but not the third because I can't get it. Otherwise I would be finished and on into Yliakum!

I've checked the forums well including the bugs post etc, etc. but can't find anything helpful. What would one suggest I do now?

UPDATED: The problem is that whenever I hit the buy/sell button it crashes. Using the /buy /sell option also causes it to crash. Even in the main game area. I can't buy anything ever without it crashing. That's the only problem I have encountered so far.

P.S. on bugs.hydlaa I couldn't find an explanatin for Jabber so I couldn't register there, otherwise....
« Last Edit: November 24, 2007, 05:04:59 am by Scuzzle »

Eodun

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Re: I'm ready
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2007, 10:22:25 am »
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=30436.0

A tutorial walkthrough.

But if it crashes, won't serve you much. Tried updating all video drivers? What video card are you using? your OS?
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Lanarel

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Re: I'm ready
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2007, 10:01:27 pm »
@Eodun: I don;t think the problem is the client crashing, or not knowing what to do.

If the game crashes while giving the items, it may be that the server has not stored your progress. Unfortunately, it may not be possible to get out of that, as you can not redo the parts to get the items. Normally, the suggestion would be to use an alt to get the objects, and pass them too your main char, but in tutorial that is not possible. So the fastest way probably to re-create your character and try again.

A fix for most of these problems is in trunk, and this should not occur anymore when that is on Laanx (next release I hope).

Eodun

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Re: I'm ready
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 10:04:52 pm »
If the game crashes while giving the items, it may be that the server has not stored your progress.

I don't fully understand: As the game crashes, the server doesn't save progress; or as the server doesn't save the game crashes?

I think it's the first, but then I don't understand why you can't go back some steps and do them again (as it's like if you never did them).
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Lanarel

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 10:22:16 pm »
Progress in quests is stored in different ways. One newer way is by dividing the quest in steps, and every time you finish a step that is saved. Another way, still used in most quests, remembers the last thing an NPC said to you. WHen you say something and it matches both text (or giving an item) and the previous response  in the quest definition, you get a new response which is stored. For example (just inventing things a bit), you give dust, Xardon says "Thank you for the dust". You say "elephant". This does not match with "Thank you for the dust" so nothing happens. You give certificate. THis matches with "Thank you for the dust", Xardon says "Thanks" and you go on in the quest. There are two problems with this:
1. If (in case of other NPCs) you get another response in between, that response replaces this quest's response, and the quest is messed up. FOr example, giving the dust, then getting a quest with another npc (or sometimes just saying hello), and you cannot proceed the first quest.
2. The last response is not saved. If the server crashes (or you log out), you cannot continue the quest, unless it was at points where progress was saved in a different way (mostly when you go to the next npc).

The fix that should help this does the following:
1. last response is recorded for each quest separately, so it does not matter if another npc (or even the same) responds to something else
2. these responses are saved in the database, so a crash or logging out does not matter (unless it crashes just when it needs to save, but that is a much much much smaller chance).

I think it's the first, but then I don't understand why you can't go back some steps and do them again (as it's like if you never did them).
Yes, normally you can go back a few steps (generally first thing you said to this NPC). But you cannot re-give an item. Normally, an alt could get that for you, but in this case that does not work.
Mostly my 1 point above causes problems, because you may not be aware what happened, and after a while you have several quests that do not progress.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2007, 10:25:38 pm by Lanarel »

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Re: I'm ready
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 01:14:59 pm »
I have the same problem. Anyone has any ideas how to solve it??

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Re: I'm ready
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 01:22:11 pm »
Many thanks, Lanarel, just happened to me in a quest XD

At least I could end it in another way (though it gave me no exp for that reason)
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