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Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« on: November 28, 2007, 05:39:30 pm »
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Im sry if this is off topic but.. well the forum doesnt have a "IS THIS BETTER THAN WOW? SECTION"
lawl... im a noob just answer my Q's PLS
Is the game as "fun" as WoW??
ive been playing WoW for a while now, but its expensive!!! is this the free maybe better alternative?


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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2007, 05:49:46 pm »
PS is not wow
PS is not as large as wow

PS is not run like wow

most would say if you want wow go play wow as we are not wow

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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2007, 05:58:44 pm »
This game is not at this time as expansive as WoW. This game is a pre-alpha, not a released game. 'Players' here are really 'Testers'. This game is about Role Play (RP).

If you like WoW then this most likely will NOT be the game for you. It is NOT a good free alternative to WoW.
But to know if this is the game for you, what is it that you like about WoW?
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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 06:12:52 pm »
In terms of settings and planned content it is multiple times more expansive than wow. In terms of what is actually implemented, a flat no.
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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2007, 06:41:04 pm »
Heh. WoW is for Role-play sissies, PlaneShift is actual Roleplaying. As mentioned, though, it's in the dev stages, so don't expect a whole lot going in. Although you will be surprised at th' coolness of the community and the neat sense of "cool, this is an actual game where people care about settings and roleplay" when you come in. It aint as big (yet) as WoW, or as "technologically advanced", but look for good things. :thumbup:
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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2007, 06:43:22 pm »
 :) The best way to answer your question would be for you to actually log into game and try it. It is free.  Not one person in this community will have the same opinion about the game, but most will tell you it is different from other online games. We like to roleplay in this community. If you are thinking about giving planeshift a chance I would recommend taking the time to read some of the stickies in the forums. You will have questions and this is the best place to find answers. Please keep in mind this game is nothing like WOW, comparing it would be a huge mistake.  Welcome to planeshift and I hope you enjoy your stay here.
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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 06:44:07 pm »
:) The best way to answer your question would be for you to actually log into game and try it. It is free.  Not one person in this community will have the same opinion about the game, but most will tell you it is different from other online games. We like to roleplay in this community. If you are thinking about giving planeshift a chance I would recommend taking the time to read some of the stickies in the forums. You will have questions and this is the best place to find answers. Please keep in mind this game is nothing like WOW, comparing it would be a huge mistake.  Welcome to planeshift and I hope you enjoy your stay here.
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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 07:44:16 pm »
I believe he meant "expensive", not "expansive."

In which case, this game is totally free to play. It doesn't have a monthly fee like WoW, and you can't even buy special bonus items with real money, like in other so-called free games like Maple Story. There's zero cost to you.

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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 07:45:09 pm »
*Feels initially happy that his prior psychotic playing of WoW will be able to provide insight, yet is sad that WoW stole a year of his life*
Saying that, PS will probably get to the time-consuming, soul stealing status of WoW, but how they go about it is different.

With WoW, everything is fairly linear.  You do all the quests and the people tell you where to go when you're done (each area's end quests generally lead to the next level-up area's beginning quests), professions are unbelievably easy to learn (just get mats and click create), and you either end up: an alt junkie, a PvP nutso, or an 'MC Raider' (We ain't got no liiiives!).  There isn't really any RP.  Not to mention that the only thing a player can do with their character is change the gear.  It's like a game for a 10-18 year old who doesn't want to, or can't really, put any thought into making a character stat or personality wise.

With PS, you've usually got to put yourself out there to find the quests.  No NPC that I remember ever gave me a quest to go to Ojaveda because Tilavi needed help, and that Tilavi was on the second flood of Brado's Inn  in the first big section of Ojaveda through the big doors.  That's WoW.  
PS also gives you the ability to change your character to the way you like; you can go all strength, you can go a mix of them all, or a mix of a few, but everyone generally does something different with their points.  There aren't any 'real' classes, due to this mix and ability to change stats, just more of a gray area when it comes to casters and meleers.
Professions get progressively harder as you get more deep in specialization.  Mining is simple, you dig in the ground.  Metallurgy gets a bit harder, because if you blank out, you can end up turning your hard earned into piles of dust or slag.  Blacksmithing and the various specialties require lots of time hammering out blades, hilts, and combining them together.
The professions of PS are also far more variable in what they produce.  Whereas every blacksmith in WoW can create a Moonsteel Broadsword that does the exact same thing whether it's crafted by a lvl150 or lvl300 BS, with PS the higher levels of metal supply quality and BS knowledge can get you either a cruddy shortsword, or a pretty sweet shortsword.
PS is a more mature game overall.  WoW did get mature once you hit the level cap, as good guilds would find the good people to raid/play with, but getting there was sometimes very painful.

In essence, PS is far more involved on the character basis (At least now) than on the stuff to loot and kill basis.  I have rarely if ever been in a group to quest with; most group things are RP events that, although don't necessarily have you killing and looting stuff, you can still get rewards from GMs or others for taking part.
PS also takes more time.  Getting a character to a good level doesn't take the weeks to month a good leveler can on WoW; it seems to take several months to a  year to get really 'good.'  Leveling is different, as progression points let you build what you want, but also takes longer to get 'leveled up.'
I like PS because I can be less 'intense' than I was on WoW and still feel like I've accomplished something.  It also doesn't require me to devote 5 hours of my life a night to do something, and I can drop it and give an IC response that'll be taken in context.
RP is fun anyway.  It's nice to get used to and you can really screw with some people. :D

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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 10:03:39 pm »
I was coming here to impart my wisdom and insight from being a current player of both games. but I cant really add much more than Ravenguard has. He sums up the differences quite accuratly.

If you like WoW then this most likely will NOT be the game for you. It is NOT a good free alternative to WoW.

I dont think that is exactly true Ares :P

It is like saying 'If you like Kittens, you wont like PS' the two are pretty much a similar comparison. To be more realistic to what the subject matter is 'If you like FPS you wont like RTS'. Different things at different times in different places appeal to people in different ways.

If I was to think of the big difference between the two it would be that in WoW you can do stuff, and pretty much no matter what it is it wont affect your reputation, going AFK in BGs, Ninjaing loot in instances, even stealing mats when people ask you to craft them an item. You can pretty much get away with these in WoW. In PS, because it is RP based, news would rapidly get around that you are undesireable, this would in turn pretty much cripple any relations you have with the other people who play.

As a word of advice if you do try PS, avoid saying things like 'Lawl'  :P

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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2007, 10:50:11 pm »
If you like WoW then this most likely will NOT be the game for you. It is NOT a good free alternative to WoW.

I dont think that is exactly true Ares :P

It is like saying 'If you like Kittens, you wont like PS' the two are pretty much a similar comparison. To be more realistic to what the subject matter is 'If you like FPS you wont like RTS'. Different things at different times in different places appeal to people in different ways.

I think he meant that it wasn't a good alternative to Warcraft. You don't see as much hack and slash, pwning, and leet in PlaneShift. Another way to say it: "If you like the community/game mechanics/contents in WoW and hope to join PlaneShift for said things, you won't like this game since it is very dissimilar."

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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2007, 03:11:33 am »
You don't see as much hack and slash, pwning, and leet in PlaneShift

I must disagree with that, as Idoru I would agree totally, as I dont go to the common places when using that character that such things occur. In a different guise, I would have to disagree. PLing, L33tness, and hack and slash are very much alive in PS, no matter how much people try to deny it :(

We, as a community, need to get real about PS. A large percentage of the people here dont give a dam about RP, they just want to level as quick as possible, only worrying about RP when a Ban threat is imposed. Hence all the complaint posts about crafting, mining, weapon qualities.....      :thumbdown:

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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2007, 03:35:30 am »
First of all, not true about liking WoW equalling not liking PS. I like both. Second f all, there -is- RP in WoW, and believe me, the RPers there are at least on the level of planeshift, and some are better than most that I see in PS. It is just that you have to actually find RPers on RP servers (having MRP or FlagRSP helps, as does joining an RP guild).

To answer the questions, PS sucks game-wise comparatively, and is great community-wise. The problem with WoW is too many RP servers and no proactive enforcement. Their enforcement of the policies is reactive, meaning I have to report names that don't fit RP settings and other such things.




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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 04:14:33 am »
Quote from: Idoru
We, as a community, need to get real about PS. A large percentage of the people here dont give a dam about RP, they just want to level as quick as possible, only worrying about RP when a Ban threat is imposed. Hence all the complaint posts about crafting, mining, weapon qualities.....      :thumbdown:
* zorbels raises an eyebrow to that statement

Hmmm... you sure about that? I don't know who you have been hanging out with in game but it sounds like not a whole lot of RPer's.

I completely disagree that there are more in game that tend to like leveling more than roleplaying. There are alot of players who care about RPing. There are many threads on this forum that prove so. Usually when someone is new to planeshift it is all about leveling because they don't know any better. Give it a few log ins and people tend to start roleplaying more than leveling. They learn from those who set a standard, and if you really truly believe that more people like to level then maybe we should be setting a better example. I know I am doing my part ... question is are you?

[Edit] Well after poking Xillix in mIRC thinking I was a genius because I just came up with an awesome idea for a poll, he gave me this link. So much for my idea but proof is what I get! I think the votes speak for themselves. What Engages You ...

[Edit again] From the way you edited and posted this I am assume you have taken offense on Idoru's behalf ......

Quote from: Rongar Elani
*Edit* And Idoru is a great RPer by the way, far from being attracted by leveling.

So I seperated my paragraph and had two of the sentances meant for him seperate from the rest that is actually meant for all readers. I am not going to argue how many players roleplay and how many don't. People have their opinions and I expressed mine just as much as Idoru did. The only difference between your post Rongar and mine is that I have visual proof, were as yours doesn't. I am not saying that there are hardly any power levelers. I am saying that there are alot more RPer's in game than Idoru and yourself give credit to. I hope that was a little more clear.




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Re: Is this game Expansive like WoW?
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 04:46:12 am »
Maybe the poll turned out that way because the powerlevelers were busy leveling. :P

Anyways, I can back up Idoru's statement. There are many people who don't RP at all. But, some of them learn to RP and to enjoy RP at some point, others will leave as soon as they get bored, or maxed. Nevertheless, real RPers are somewhat rare, just check some descriptions at plaza or something, or talk to a few people. They often don't even know the difference between IC and OOC or [what brackets are there for >:(], simply because they don't bother learning even though they are around for quite a while. Don't get me wrong there though, PS is the game with the largest base of roleplayers I've come across, but powerleveling and l33tsp34k is quite alive, to be seen at the numerous threads about powerleveling.

*Edit* And Idoru is a great RPer by the way, far from being attracted by leveling.
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