What aspect of the game do you like the least?

[Kieve]

There's this awesome Chinese buffet place just down the road from where I work, so I do a lot of take-out.
Naturally, a fortune cookie is always involved (last night's read "Next time, order the shrimp").
My favorite of all time - and I had this one laminated and stuck to our MPS's monitor - read:

"We do three kinds of jobs - quick, cheap, and good."

Personally, I'll pick "good" every time, no question.

[Phinehas]

The mechanics and the settings...

The mechanics obviously only because they're still being worked on...

The settings because, well... some of them are just weird... I mean, I'm all for originality, but a giant stalactite with a crystal in the top? I know that certain people agree with me, some of the people who find that the farther you get into it, the more holes there are that have to be covered up essentially by ignoring them or glazing over them with highly improbably explanations. I know it's fantasy, but it'd make the suspension of reality easier if it was a little more believable.

Also glyphs. Not that there's anything wrong with them per se, I just find them awkward and severely limiting of the way I'd like to RP Phinehas. But that's a personal preference and not an actual problem.

[Xanthan]

Leama and Xillix, I hope you are not too upset with responses here.  When they are posted in the spirit of constructive criticism I think this is a very important question to have answered.  In any endeavor it is your weaknesses that hold you back, and you will move forwards the most by identifying them and working on them.  I learned that in sports and the arts, and I think it is true for anything.  In planeshift, we may generally as a community know what these weaknesses are, but this discussion could actually a good way to help prioritize what to work on next that will most improve the game.  We all know it's a work in progress and that much great work has been done to get to where we are.  Hopefully postings here will be made and received in the positive spirit that I'm sure Leama intended.  I certainly saw the question as following in the spirit of the excellent polls that Xillix has posted recently, which I think are a great idea.

[neko kyouran]

part of the game i like the least? 

no on sent little old me any cookies yet.

[Zan]

Prod the Devs into making cooking and baking available, then you get all the cookies you want I bet!

* Zan would give Neko a cookie but he didn't have breakfast yet so he ate them all

[theirah]

* theirah hands out imaginary cookies to everyone

hope they taste alright ;p

as for least favorite...I'd say the attitude I've seen from some against "powerlevelers". I know that this game is focused on the RPG part of MMORPG, but shouldnt everyone be welcome to the game? I started out as a powerleveler simply because I didnt know what role-playing was. I joined a guild that many defined as OoC (they acted on what the guild defined as rp, but was controversial to others), but it was what kept me in planeshift long enough to learn about role-playing.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

My answer is just as constructive and given in the same positive constructive sense. In this thread and all others I am readying what players think and constantly making adjustments to the game, or advocating having them made. One thing I think is constantly forgotten is that if I give any individual personally what they have requested someone else complains of it. "what is your least favorite favorite aspect of the game?" Is highly subjective and perspective oriented.

Phinehas thinks the settings as a whole are unbelievable, others in the the opposite thread leama posted have identified settings as their favorite aspect. No one should think that just because I list my complaints as well that I do not value their imput. I may argue vehemently with you but so long as the argument is kept civil and there is no trollishness going on I will not only hear you but do my best to forward your ideas to the other devs.

There seems to be an expectation of service that is unrealistic relative to the means of the game. Time and time again I have appealed to the community for many things and found them fall on deaf ears or seen only some minor response for a few parties. While I thank those who do respond to such appeals, I think there needs to be greater give and take. If you have never tried to keep a couple hundred of your favorite people happy, you probably will never understand the difficulties involved in deving for planeshift.

I only get shrill when the devs are accused of not caring, or not working fast enough, or being mean, or cruel. A lot of this is going around both within and outside PS and I would like to be able to count on the player community to help with this.

I should have at no point given any cause for anyone to think they are not listened to. Like Karyuu, I have done my best to interact with the player community, sharing information, answering questions and forwarding views, and like Karyuu I have take much heat for doing so.

Notice also this thread, "what is your least favorite aspect . . . " has more posts than its opposite, think about how that reflects on the community in the eyes of the devs.

Keep up the discussion . . .

[Leama]

Whenever a thread is posted, one never knows what will become of it. I asked these two questions in hopes to hear what other players had to say of course because it is important to me. I also left these two topics WIDE open so that they could be answered in anyway a person wished too. Honestly I thought the “What do you like the most?” would have gotten many more responses then this one. Please I ask for all of you to answer this as honestly as you can but remember there are people, hard working people, that make this game what it is for your enjoyment. Maybe people could ‘say thank you’ to those how have given so much. So then with that in mind, I ask again “What aspect do you like the least?”

[Zan]

My answer is just as constructive and given in the same positive constructive sense. In this thread and all others I am readying what players think and constantly making adjustments to the game, or advocating having them made. One thing I think is constantly forgotten is that if I give any individual personally what they have requested someone else complains of it. "what is your least favorite favorite aspect of the game?" Is highly subjective and perspective oriented.

That is why polls are good, they give you a majority vote. And we all know the majority wins .. unless the Devs decide not to listen to the majority.

Some people will always have unrealistic expectations because they tend to think of themselves first. I for one respect what the devs do and I respect what you and Karyuu try a great deal. It's not easy doing PR and interacting with the players because there will always be negative feedback, often immature one too, involved. A part of being in charge is being the first one that gets blamed for anything undesirable.

* Zan thinks of something ...

[theirah]

In response to that, the devs have done great! I'm having trouble keeping 5 people happy in my chess club ;p

[Induane]

I personally dislike the guild system the most.  This is purely a mechanics bit.  It is too rigid and inflexible.  Even the guild system in Molecular Blue was a bit more flexible.  More specifically I would prefer to have a bit more freedom to specify ranks, number of ranks, and sub-ranks perhaps as well as bringing back the old MB ability for more than one person to hold the highest position in a guild. In its early days our guild was run by a triumvirate which meant leadership was shared among 3 people.  In MB this was possible, CB it was not.  They also seem too specific.  Many guilds (including CoV) aren't really guilds at all exactly, but an organization of sorts so it would be nice to be able to found something besides a guild instead of making all organizations lump themselves into the guild framework along with the expectations that go with it.


IMO There are two important things:

1.) You should be able to categorize your organization as a guild or as something else.

2.) Hierarchy should be flexible.  It should be possible to have a variety of ranks and sub ranks so that a leader of a specific department of a guild could specify some sub-ranks within the realms of their department.  Example:

Rank1
Rank2
--Sub1
--Sub2
--Sub3
--Sub4
Rank3
--Sub1
--Sub2
Rank4
--Sub1
--Sub2
---Sub1a
---Sub2a
---Sub3a
--Sub3
--Sub4
Rank5

[Kulrok]

The biased local forum whiners who can't handle any constructive criticism of the game or anything other than its euphoric praise.

[Under the moon]

Anything I cannot incorporate into my roleplaying without glazing something over.

And Enkis.

[Jeraphon]

And Enkis.

First time we agree on something?

Well, okay, it's unfair for me to say that I like enkis the least. It's probably just the way a lot of players latch on to enkis and ask for more cultural development of their race when they probably have more than the other 11 combined right now. Yes, we get it, they're furry and omg kawai!!11 ^_^ but the enki-centrism needs to slow down.

[Phinehas]

And Enkis.

First time we agree on something?

Well, okay, it's unfair for me to say that I like enkis the least. It's probably just the way a lot of players latch on to enkis and ask for more cultural development of their race when they probably have more than the other 11 combined right now. Yes, we get it, they're furry and omg kawai!!11 ^_^ but the enki-centrism needs to slow down.

I heartily support that sentiment. And the other one offered by Mooney in his last post.