Just wondering

[Mordraugion]

Why would we have cats and apes? as is mentioned earlier in the post none of the races are native to the cavern, they didn't  evolve there so therefore no cats or apes unless brought in during arrival.

A second minor point strange how all the racism ideas we have had centred on Enkidukai

[darhark]

A second minor point strange how all the racism ideas we have had centred on Enkidukai

Emm. Don't you have a cat? They are real racists! Mine is thinking i'm here to serve it. Dogs - not, ferrets - not, even cocroaches are not. But cats - yes. So it is.

[Erisnas]

Well the two races the get the most racism is Kran and Enki.  Likely this is because they are the two most unique races (Klyros can be rare to be seen sometimes and these are more common).  Enkis get the cat reference while the Krans aren't considered the brightest.  There is some reasons behind both though.

[zorbels]

A second minor point strange how all the racism ideas we have had centred on Enkidukai

Emm. Don't you have a cat? They are real racists! Mine is thinking i'm here to serve it. Dogs - not, ferrets - not, even cocroaches are not. But cats - yes. So it is.

I think your getting racists mixed up with independent when it comes to using cats as an example. Cats are very independent. I have a cat. My cat doesn't discriminate who pets her as long as someone does. She doesn't care if the hand that feeds her is black or white, she just cares about being fed. I don't believe a cat is capable of being racist.   

[Under the moon]

No cats, and no apes in PS. That is untill Settings tells you there is. It is not against the settings to -not- have a cat, but it likely is if you do.

Despite what you may have seen in Cherppow's thread. Yes, we have no bananas. We have no bananas today!

[darhark]

To be implemented

[neko kyouran]

no cats.... no apes... no bananas!   no tarzan's either  !!!  (<-- link)

[Suno_Regin]

When they use OOC descriptions for race traits, such as "Enkidukai have cat-like reflexes" (or something like that...I really don't remember >.> but I read it somewhere), it seems like they would also have cats in the game. If you were actually writing a book on what the enkidukai were like ICly, how would you describe them?

[Rayken]

When they use OOC descriptions...

Because it's just that, an OOC description for the benefit of the player, not the character.

[Erisnas]

Probably it would best to use terms from Jayose's library.  I am sure at least some have descriptions of various Enkidukai.  If there isn't any then perhaps that should be a topic worth being written about?

[Maulus Octir]

Believe it or not, racism in PS isn't such a bad thing, as long as one keeps it to a character and IC level, because despite the fact that we are playing as an original system of characters, its not like we can change how they interact socially, if you understand what I mean. Because in real life, humans express racism as a means of social interaction between their race and another, and while PS is not all humans, the characters interact on a very human level, and that's probably unavoidable due to the fact that humans control them. Overall, what I'm trying to say is that as of now racism is present in Planeshift's society, and in support of a complex social structure in the game, I suggest it stay that way.

[Zan]

Is probably unavoidable cause enough for us to not even try and forget about racism for a change?

I still find it sad that we as human beings can't leave that racist view behind us. It serves no purpose and has no benefits .. heck it's outright despicable behaviour but somehow people go around like it's normal and alright. Sorry but I don't get that at all. I don't see how you can say it's alright to be racist because we're human and humans just are racists.

Personally, I think you shouldn't even leave racism out for the game because the settings ask it ... you should do it because it's simply not a good point of view to have. See this game world as an exercise of how a racist free world could look.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

No cats, No apes, No bananas.

Racism is punishable by death in the octarchy.

Go read the in game books. The world may have once had such conflicts and due to this racism was outlawed, and anything remotely thought to inspire racism was outlawed or burned. The harsh boot of the old octachy crushed this out hundreds of years ago.

[Liadan]

Racism in-game, wouldn't that be an IC reflection of OCC sentiments?  As in the character is merely acting on the prejudices of the player?  You also have to consider the development of "My race is better than yours" as an in-game equivalence to the development of nationalism in world history. There you see the development of "us" vs "them"...if you have no idea what I'm talking about please look it up before you start arguing =).  I would hesitate to call this sentiment racism, owing to the negative connations that are present when it is used; what better word can subsitute the pride and joy of being of a particular race?

Personally, as a player, I don't like the enki race, possibly because they have received more attention then any other in the development phase(bias perhaps, but it's true).  Therefore, my char(s) will have some prejudice, but the degree of which will be determined by their personality moreso. As well, there will be some racism (for the lack of a better word) considering that there are certain races that -can't- interbreed (or are asexual). As in, if a klyros wishes to have a family s/he will have to and only marry another klyros.  The other races of Yliakum have a wider selection available, owing to their genetic makeup. I am of the opinion that owing to this species difference, there will be -some- racism. But it should not be intentionally from players themselves, I'm not saying that. In this case, it was created (sorry guys) by settings. 

[Choren]

I think that only animals needed by the humans to survive would be brought over.  Such as live stock (cows, sheep, oxen, hosers, ext...) and animals used to herd them (dogs, hosers, ect...).  Also they would likely have grans, fruit seeds, and vegetable seeds.  Last would be food stubs and they may of had to kill off some of the animals.  They would change overtime because of breading.  Also maybe rats.