Enkidukai couples

[Phinehas]

Maybe you should spend some more time in the library, Suno 

Why, are there a lot of Enkidukai giving birth to other races there?

[Suno_Regin]

lol xD

Nice one Phine.

But really, why is the answer to everything always in the library? Schooling systems are more meant to teach things like that. You don't go into a common library and buy/read a selection of hundreds to thousands of books to learn everything you need to know about the world in real life, you go to school to learn those things. Now, schools in this time would cost a lot to get into, and not be mandatory, making it so only people with interest would have to get into them. Before you say, "But we have this wonderful tutorial!" the tutorial doesn't teach crap about this, which is an actual arguement I got in some time ago.

The libraries current in Yliakum seem to be directed toward the retarded and otherwise extremely dumb people. Most of the books I've found in there should be normal everyday knowledge for average citizens of Yliakum, so I don't see why they're even there. In the very least, the website should have documentations and databases on it, like a question and answer system, to clear a lot of these things up so that our character isn't treated like an idiot for not knowing things like this. My character himself wouldn't have any interest in walking into a library and reading a book about birthing, nor does he wish to go to school, but that doesn't mean I can't have OOC knowledge, does it?

[Jeraphon]

My character himself wouldn't have any interest in walking into a library and reading a book about birthing, nor does he wish to go to school, but that doesn't mean I can't have OOC knowledge, does it?

Sorry. Yes it does.

[Zan]

Well then go make an OOC trip to the library and pretend you've never been there to keep that reputation high

No, I understand your point and I agree. I read all the books I can because else I can't decide what my characters should know because of their upbringing. My characters wouldn't be interested in all those books though so it is mostly OOC for me to do so.

[Garile]

Personally I have to agree with Suno on that completely.

I mean if a new player starts a guild he is bashed for not following the setting, but really isn't it being made pretty hard to find this kind of stuf?? I mean to know basic things that any character with the IQ of a peanut would know means exploration to the far reaches of Yliakum.

Now I can understand how it can be seen as fun by some, but it's also very anti RP. If I'm online I want to RP my character the best I can and needing to go places my character would never go to to find out some information I might be able to use in RP some day possibly if I'm lucky.....

I mean it would be different if this would be knowledge my character shouldn't know before he reads such books but in most cases this isn't the case and that really makes places like libraries OOC places.

[Jeraphon]

I mean to know basic things that any character with the IQ of a peanut would know means exploration to the far reaches of Yliakum.

The library is the far reaches of Yliakum?

Here's the deal. You guys want all this information off-site because you think that will aid RP - letting players avoid finding such info in the game. Where does that leave the players who just want to download and go? You're gonna tell them that the information "anyone would know" isn't in the game, but rather in some website? That said website is inexorably linked to the game? That's unfair. You want to treat the library as an OOC place to gain information? Fine. Do it. It's a willing sacrifice.

We're never going to please everyone the way things are done. If keeping the library as a semi-OOC source of basic information displeases you, oh well, too bad.

What's all this about enkidukai births now, before this whole topic is moved to the complaint department?

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

I have to agree the unwillingness to use the library due to ic/ooc issues just seems . . .

LAME!

Make a reading character and read the information if you want to preserve your "My character does not read" rps.

[Garile]

I have to agree the unwillingness to use the library due to ic/ooc issues just seems . . .

LAME!

hmmm yes very well argumented. Now why didn't I think of that. That really makes me change my opinion completely. *rolls eyes*

If you don't agree that is your porogative but calling someone elses opinon lame just becuase it's not the same as your opinion is just childish.

As for the library being the only place I have seen books at other places and I'm sure they will appear on even more places or are you telling me that the library will be the one and only place to hold books?

If I play D&D do I have to learn all the details about the world in the game? If I ask a DM about something my barbarian should know as comon knowledge do you expect him to tell me to have my character hit the bookstore?

So why is it strange to think basic knowledge like how long a pregnancy lasts should be in a database and not just in a book ingame?

I respect you having a different opinion then me, but that doesn't mean I agree with it.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

I mean that it is moved by laziness and not any "sticking to my character" I think the argument is weak.

Take some time and read the darned books.

Really you ignored my second point entirely and my initial post had intent of being a lighthearted comment on the nature of the complaint. you think it is hard to read them in the library? Try writing them, having them approved, or defending them to a largely unappreciative audience.

[Suno_Regin]

I mean that it is moved by laziness and not any "sticking to my character" I think the argument is weak.

Take some time and read the darned books.

How is the argument weak? Whatever the reason, it makes more sense then sticking common knowledge and the such in a library. How hard is copying and pasting?

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

How hard is it to read them in the game?

I think this topic has run its course, thanks for playing.

[Garile]

Wait you're reply to several posts is "LAME" and then you just say to simply make another character as if that has anything to do with the point that it's OOC and I'M ignoring points made???

Xillix Queen of Fools
How hard is it to read them in the game?

A lot harder if
A. They aren't all in one place and one doesn't know all the places
B. One doesn't even know what kind of information one can find and what not.

I'm sorry Xillix but calling people opinions lame and arguments weak becuase you asume others are simply being lazy is no way to get a constructive argument. It's not that I don't apreciate your work, I think it's great how much has been added, but I do stick with my opinion that an outside database would be more apropriate and that the books ingame right now are to OOCoriented for my taste.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Learning is part of the in game process you don't have a gm to answer you.

In fact answers for these questions did not exist until someone on my team made the book in answer to player requests.

Now you want it delivered in another manner because you say it should be that way.

Do you want fries with that?

It really is not that big a deal to ask you and others to read the in game books.

There are only three libraries right now.

Garile i was not directing it at you, don't take it personally.

[Phinehas]

Frankly, I see both points of view.

I agree with Garile as far as the actual matter goes, but I think we should cut the Settings people some slack.

[Eolas]

There are only three libraries right now.

Is that with the Imperial Library included?