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Gimlich

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Cant run PS
« on: January 15, 2008, 10:04:23 pm »
I installed planeshift from the north american mirror and when the game was finally finished installing and I went to start it up I get the error:

Somthing unexpected happened in planeshift: Crystal blue
Details: Exception_Access_Violation at 4E524157
Would you like to save dignostic file


[EDIT] Also I get windows error report thingies every time I try to open the setup or the updater


Whats up with this?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2008, 10:53:03 pm by Gimlich »

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2008, 10:22:29 pm »
seems this error has been reported but right now we are not sure how it is being handled

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=30488.msg349150#msg349150

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2008, 10:33:49 pm »
This is actually a problem I have been experiencing for a few weeks now if not more... I think it was before christmas when I tried to reinstall PS and encountered this error message for the first time.

I guess I wont be able to play Planeshift for a while
« Last Edit: January 15, 2008, 11:03:50 pm by Gimlich »

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2008, 11:13:45 pm »
Is this with a new character or an old one?

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2008, 11:35:58 pm »
Haha! Success! I have managed to fix the problem. I uninstalled the game and removed every single program with the name "Planeshift" in it from my computer. A quickly reinstalled it and now it seems to be working perfectly

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 03:13:46 am »
Can anyone tell me where i can login e-mail me if you can. :sweatdrop:

Edit: removed email add
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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 06:03:27 am »
Dakota have you downloaded the game? http://www.planeshift.it/download.html

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2008, 07:01:38 pm »
I have that problem sometimes, normally because I have some access restricted since I'm not administrator on my computer.
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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 07:17:16 pm »
This problem occurs every time I try to play Planeshift as a non-Administrator. Are you guys telling me, that these things are not directly connected and you actually CAN play Planeshift without Admin-Rights?

I installed the game as administrator, since there is no real sense to install the game in your user directory. I am working all the time on a non-Admin Account like you should.. and only change to the Admin Account if really needed and I am playing PS with "run as..".
I tried to find some way to make the Planeshift directory (in the normal Programs folder) accessable to normal users, but I couldn't find it. I remember something like that beeing possible on XP, but I forgot how..


PS:
My main platform is linux, I only use Windows for testing purposes and for Windows Programming (which I try to avoid, but couldn't this year)

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2008, 04:40:23 am »
If you installed the game as an administrator then it should have been installed as being accessible to all users, however XP is rather inconsistant with this process and sometimes it doesn't work with many programs. One possble method is to change your user account to admin, install the game in that account, then change it back to limited user. It is almost certain, if the game was installed on the admin account, that a limited user won't have access to the admin accounts files and folders, this is basic computer security, don't allow restricted users access to the files and folders of the admin users.

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2008, 09:14:05 pm »
If you installed the game as an administrator then it should have been installed as being accessible to all users

I remember such a choice in linux, which works perfect, but I recently installed it on XP and I don't even remember an (explicit) possibility to make it available to everybody.

But my bet would be, that part of the problem is, that log files, configs etc. don't get written in the directory of the active user, but only to the game directory. Which makes it also a problem saving stuff (like quest notes) over uninstalls and installs. I know this might be difficult because you have to do this differently in Win/Mac/Lin, but this is something that should be available at some point.

(Maybe I should add this to the wishlist)

EDIT:
Didn't add it to the wishlist. I guess it is obvious that you shouldn't save anything in the game directory.
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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 04:23:28 am »
Windows is a problem in the way it installs games. I believe in Linux it is possible to run two sessions of PS simultaneously and log into the server using both, in windows this appears to be impossible because of the way it handles game files, users and user security, I don't see a way around that really since it would require a rewrite of windows itself to correct a lot of issues. BTW have you tested to see if you can run PS in that user account if it is an admin account?

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 04:58:13 am »
BTW have you tested to see if you can run PS in that user account if it is an admin account?
What would be the point about that? I am using this account exactly becaus it is NOT an admin account ;-) I guess it works, but I am not restarting my computer in windows and log on and off there a couple times to test this, because I don't think it gives an extra value unless you use windows with multiple persons (on multiple accounts) and it wouldn't be wise to let somebody else run your computer in an admin account..

Like I said in my last post: You don't need to reprogram windows. It would help a lot if logs, configs and saves would be written into the current users directory and not in the game directory, where normal users shouldn't write stuff anyways.

EDIT:
You need to run the config as admin, for example. If you don't than no change gets written to the disk, since you are not allowed to write the config file in the game directory. (You have to do "run as ... admin")
« Last Edit: February 05, 2008, 05:04:00 am by Jonerian »

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 03:45:28 pm »
Like I said in my last post: You don't need to reprogram windows. It would help a lot if logs, configs and saves would be written into the current users directory and not in the game directory, where normal users shouldn't write stuff anyways.

wish granted in the next release, for all os's the config files are no longer saved in the planeshift directory including logs, screenshots, and options [where most ingame config is saved]. This will solve a lot of writing and saving issues some have due to not being admin or root

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Re: Cant run PS
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2008, 06:42:02 am »
Already in the next release? That's great.  \\o//